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Old Jul 26, 2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rpggyr
Wow! I thought I had read every study ever done regarding mercury and autism. I have never seen this one. My feeling is they will never admit the link between thimerisol and autisum until one or both of the following ahs happened. 1. Everyone involved in this coverup is dead, or 2. They pass laws protecting all involved, or both. After reading this story I am going to post a link to. The evil this government and their bed fellows could do will never surprise me. Read this artical called The House That Aids Built by Liam Schiff.

http://www.altheal.org/toxicity/house.htm

Peggy
There was a thread here about that. I'll see if I can find it. I don't remember the title, but since I participated, it will be on my subscribed threads list.

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Old Jul 26, 2005, 10:22 PM
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I did find the link, which I'm pming to Peggy. If anyone else would like it, please pm me. Thanks! MTP

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Old Jul 28, 2005, 01:29 AM
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The Age of Autism: Rep. wants Amish study

United Press International - July 19, 2005

Jul 19, 2005 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- A U.S. Congressman who is a medical doctor said Tuesday he will seek funding to study the autism rate among the largely unvaccinated Amish.

"I want to get somebody to do a study on that community," Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., told United Press International. "I would like to get funding and have somebody go into the Amish community and do a survey."

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday, however, that an Amish study would not yield useful information.

Weldon's comments came in response to a UPI investigation that found an apparently low level of autism among the Amish. Some parents of children with autism believe that a mercury-based preservative in vaccines called thimerosal caused the disorder, so looking at the autism rate among a group of unvaccinated children would test that theory.

Weldon made his remarks following a news briefing by federal health officials and doctors, at which they reiterated the safety and importance of childhood immunizations. They noted that thimerosal had been phased out of childhood vaccinations beginning in 1999.

Dr. Julie Gerberding, the CDC director, said scientific studies do not show a link between thimerosal and autism.

Asked by UPI whether the government had studied the autism rate in a never-vaccinated population, she replied that it is difficult to find such groups because the U.S. vaccination rate is so high. Also, she said, "It's very, very difficult to get an effective numerator and denominator and to get a reliable diagnosis."

She also said, however, that parents have been pushing for faster research and "I think those kind of studies could be done and should be done." She suggested that the Amish are not the right group.

"You have to adjust for the strong genetic component that also distinguishes, for example, people in Amish communities who may elect not to be immunized. To draw any conclusions from them would be difficult," Gerberding said.

Weldon responded that the isolated gene pool in the Amish community would not invalidate a study because autism is not solely a genetic disorder.

"That's operating under the assumption that it's all genetic," he said of Gerberding's comments. Weldon, a critic of the CDC's handling of autism research, said a strong outside factor is evidently at work because the number of autism cases has exploded in the past decade.

Weldon attended the news conference at the Health and Human Services building in Washington as a spectator. Afterwards, reporters spent more time interviewing him than they did the health officials, in part because there was little time for questions and in part because the officials offered no new information.

Reporters suggested that the briefing was called to overshadow a rally at the Capitol Wednesday at which parents will back Weldon's bill to remove thimerosal from all medical products; on Tuesday, Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., introduced a companion bill in the Senate.

An ABC television reporter asked the first question at the HHS briefing: "I'm wondering why we're all here today. I'm not hearing any new information."

"We're here to talk on an issue that we do receive questions on," a spokesman said, but did not directly deny that the briefing had been timed to head off the parents' group.

http://www.psycport.com/showArticle....0International

Okay, I cut the article down as much as I could to provide a "synopsis" instead of posting the whole article, which is really interesting. I must say that I found very telling their acknowledgement that the "briefing" didn't have a thing to do with any news they had for us all. I feel like asking the reporter's question every time they say, yet again, "we haven't proven a link". Fine and dandy. Come wake me up when you have something to say that isn't expressed in double speak.

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Old Jul 28, 2005, 05:41 PM
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"I want to get somebody to do a study on that community," Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., told United Press International. "I would like to get funding and have somebody go into the Amish community and do a survey."


:Melody:
sounds like the amish would make a very good choice for comparison.
melissa

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Old Jul 28, 2005, 09:36 PM
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Melissa,

If you added up all the homeschoolers, the Jehova Witness's, the Christian Scientists, and the Amish. (something that should be easy enough) they would have a diverse enough genetic population to do this study. I think while they are at it, they should check for a few other things like juvenile diabetes, asthma, and other chronic diseases that are on the rise in this generation. No, instead they will go to Denmark and do the study there. They will never undertake a study like this because they already know what they'll find.

Peggy

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"I want to get somebody to do a study on that community," Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., told United Press International. "I would like to get funding and have somebody go into the Amish community and do a survey."


:Melody:
sounds like the amish would make a very good choice for comparison.
melissa

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Old Jul 29, 2005, 04:05 PM
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Autism

by Evelyn Pringle

http://www.opednews.com


In their public statements, officials within the FDA and CDC, are always claiming that researchers and scientists who conduct studies, not funded by drug companies or the government, are making unfounded claims about a link between thimerosal-laced vaccines and autism, and other neurological disorders, which they claim could lead to reduced vaccine coverage, resulting in preventable outbreaks of disease affecting the entire planet.

I say cut the crap.

Think about it. Why would so many highly respected scientists, researchers and physicians go to such great lengths to concoct bogus studies and issue false reports, in essence putting their professional reputations on the line, if their was no connection?
I want these officials to do two things. First I want them to give me one good reason why these professionals would make this up, and two, I want them to give me one logical alternative theory for the current epidemic of disorders.

Lets look at a few of these experts.

Dr Jeffrey Bradstreet, is a practicing physician who treats children with autism and other brain-damage disorders. While in the Air Force, he was trained in toxicology and environmental health. His duties as an Officer included the responsibility for military personnel who had exposure to a wide variety of toxins, including mercury.

Dr Bradstreet has evaluated well over 2000 children with neurological disorders. He also directs a school for children with neurodevelopmental disorders where his responsibilities include supervising occupational therapists, speech and language pathologists, and applied behavioral analysts.

Dr Bradstreet is a Harvard Certified Medical Education Instructor in autism and has written three peer reviewed papers regarding the relationship between thimerosal, developmental disorders and biological markers for Mercury-Susceptibility.

In addition, he has conducted research regarding these disorders and has worked with some of the most highly respected professionals in the country, including Dr Jane El-Dahr of the Tulane University Medical Center; Dr V.K. Singh of the Utah State University Biotechnology Center; the University of Michigan Department of Pharmacology; Dr Vas Aposhian of the University of Arizona; Dr Anne Connolly of the Washington University Hospital; Dr Walter Spitzer of McGill University; the Department of Pediatrics at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School; Dr Jim Adams of the University of Arizona; and Dr Jill James, a former FDA researcher, now with the University of Arkansas, Department of Pediatrics.

Apparently the FDA, CDC, and vaccine makers expect us to believe that this long line of highly respected professionals from Universities all over the country somehow got together and conspired to conduct fraudulent research for decades and then authored 1000s of false reports and other publications.

I do not buy it. What would be the payoff?

Read the whole article at: http://www.opednews.com/articles/ope...ut_the_cra.htm

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Old Aug 07, 2005, 09:42 PM
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meet the press 8/7/2005

my dad just told me to tune in ...there is a discussion on mercury and thimerisol (sp?) in vax

check it out if you can
let me know your thoughts????
this doc seems a bit pompous

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Old Aug 07, 2005, 10:03 PM
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Oh yes I watched the whole thing. I thought David Kirby did a heck of a job. I find it ironic that not one of these so called experts that claim that thimerisol does not cause autism will never debate live. I also noted Dr. Finerberg admitted thimerisol was a neurotoxin but it does not cause autism. Well, I would have loved to ask him if they know its neurotoxic, and it does not casue autism then what is it doing in vaccines, and what does it cause. These people have told so many lies they are triipping over them. It will be a cold day in haites before the IOM meets again to review all the biological studies that have come out in the last two years. More are coming.

Peggy

Originally Posted by chicagrl72
my dad just told me to tune in ...there is a discussion on mercury and thimerisol (sp?) in vax

check it out if you can
let me know your thoughts????
this doc seems a bit pompous

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Old Aug 07, 2005, 10:52 PM
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I have it recorded, and will watch it just as soon as I can. I also consider it interesting that the talking heads who claim thimerosal in vaccines doesn't cause autism stay far away from cameras. I'd think that since these people claim to have proof that "there is no link", they'd be only too happy to share with the rest of us this compelling evidence of their's.

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Old Aug 08, 2005, 06:01 AM
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Okay, I couldn't sleep, so I got up and watched it. Very interesting. To start with a completely irrelevant aside, that doc from the IOM has a mighty flat affect. More to the point, I found his habit of never directly answering a question very irritating. TIM RUSSERT: Do you believe that thimerosal in vaccines may have contributed to some cases of autism? DAVID KIRBY: Absolutely. FINEBERG (sorry, I don't remember his first name): BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH for several minutes, after which, he still had failed to answer the question! I also thought it was amusing when he said he "didn't understand what was meant by the lack of transparency". Come now, he's meant to be a bright man, I'm sure he understands the meaning of that term perfectly! And the only justification he offered for the IOM's failure to share key study process information was that it has always been available to "qualified researchers". No one said it wasn't available to them. We said it wasn't available to the rest of us, and yet we are meant to accept their assurances that these were well designed studies? I also liked how he talked about the need to put these studies to rest and devote limited dollars to treatment studies, and then sat there mum when the funding of clinical studies of chelation were being discussed. I found the interview very interesting, and learned a couple important things I hadn't known before:

The schedule of vaccines to which I subjected my child exposed to 62.5 mg, which for a two year old is 125 times the EPA standard! and these so called well designed studies were then analyzed by a task force that didn't even include a toxicologist! Um, call me an uneducatedhystericalconspiracytoutingparent, but wouldn't it make sense, that if you're studying the effect of a known neurotoxin, that you would include the expertise of a toxicologist in interpreting study results?

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