[phila]

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[oramar]

I can't believe they are the same. I have never worked anywhere where they were the same. Usually 4-5 for tele and 6-8 for med/surg.

[PyeGirl]

Our nursing ratio on our neuro step-down unit which has monitored beds and occasionally vents is 1:4 and max 1:5. Our med-surg have max of 7-8 patients which is often with only one tech with 21-24 patients. The most shocking development is that our Rehab unit is now 1:9 which is unsafe. This is in the Southeast. I'm wondering what can be done if staffing levels become unsafe on our floor? Who do you "report" it to that will listen and not just fire the messenger?

I worked hard for my license and don't want to lose it because of greed.

Any ideas what we can do?

[forrester]

Originally Posted by PyeGirl

Our nursing ratio on our neuro step-down unit which has monitored beds and occasionally vents is 1:4 and max 1:5. Our med-surg have max of 7-8 patients which is often with only one tech with 21-24 patients. The most shocking development is that our Rehab unit is now 1:9 which is unsafe. This is in the Southeast. I'm wondering what can be done if staffing levels become unsafe on our floor? Who do you "report" it to that will listen and not just fire the messenger?

I worked hard for my license and don't want to lose it because of greed.

Any ideas what we can do?

Yes, join the NNOC in their national movement to mandate safe staffing levels! If enough nurses join, we can start sending a message to Congress, the ANA, and the facilities that we, as nurses, will no longer tolerate unsafe conditions for our patients.
Membership is anonymous and free. We need to support this group as they are the ONLY ones who are taking specific action. Check your state to see if they are starting to recruit there.

Remember, the journey IS the destination.

[RN Power Ohio]

You might make up an assignment despite objection form (who cares if your hgospital doesn't have them) and get everyone to agree to fill them out EVERY time you get an unsafe staffing assignemt.

Other nurses I know have filled out an incident report when they feel staffing is unsafe. The key is to get a few of you to agree to do it together.

[RN Power Ohio]

Forrester- NNOC membership is actually $30.00 per year but we welcome all! Paid and unpaid alike. Anyone can sign up for information for free!

[forrester]

Originally Posted by RN Power Ohio

Forrester- NNOC membership is actually $30.00 per year but we welcome all! Paid and unpaid alike. Anyone can sign up for information for free!

Oops, you are right.

Supporting the group is free, no?

[RN Power Ohio]

You bet! I just wanted to point that out in case some one read otherwise...little things can turn into big on this board sometimes!

It is always helpful to become an official member. NNOC is funded by the dues of the California nurses. Also, legislators are always asking us how many members we have- the more the better!

[forrester]

Originally Posted by RN Power Ohio

You bet! I just wanted to point that out in case some one read otherwise...little things can turn into big on this board sometimes!

It is always helpful to become an official member. NNOC is funded by the dues of the California nurses. Also, legislators are always asking us how many members we have- the more the better!

My hope is that membership will exceed that of the ANA within the next year as more and more nurses recognize the CNA/NNOC movement. I will do what I can to actualize this vision.