[Nurse Bethie]

We are having a bit of a debate at the school of nursing where I teach. We are having difficulty getting the students to properly landmark. Although a majority of the texts state that ventrogluteal is the preferred site, but we are wondering if you are using ventrogluteal exclusively in the clinical areas or is dorsogluteal an acceptable alternative. We as the instructors feel that dorsogluteal is a good site for new practitioner students who are nervous enough about an IM and need a littel larger "target" for their injections. Are we wrong? Is this a big no-no in the clinical area?
We would greatly appreciate any feedback, advise or literature/text resources to support one way or another.
Thank you!

[gwenith]

Can't answer without getting out the books. Can you get a little less technical with your question? Sorry being brain dead here.

[Nurse Bethie]

Basically what I am asking is: Is the dorso-gluteal site a big no-no in the clinical setting? Is it being discouraged by agencies and ventral gluteal being encouraged? We want to teach our students what is actually being practiced and not the "in an ideal world" theory. I want to send out new nurses who are prepared to fit in with the health care team, not nurses who are stuck in the "but the book says so" mind set.
Thanks!

[neneRN]

I generally give all IM injections of more than 1 cc in the dorsogluteal, and I see my co-workers do the same. I don't think I've ever used ventrogluteal, nor have I seen another nurse use that site. I will occasionally use vastus lateralis when I can't get to dorsgluteal, i.e. obese pts who can't roll over, hip Fx, etc. I do recall being told in school about controversy re: dorsogluteal but have not seen this in the real world.

[celestlyn]

I use dorsogluteal most of the time. Will occassionally use vastus lateralis, also, but people say it hurts more.

[teeituptom]

Nowadays in the ER we IV everyone and administer everything IV. With the except of Tetanus shots its rare we ever give anything IM anymore

[VickyRN]

I am a clinical instructor, and when we are on the postpartum floor, we frequently give Depo injections in the dorsogluteal. In fact, giving Depo in the deltoid is contraindicated in anyone 120 pounds or under. We do a lot of vastus lateralis IM injections with newborns in the nursery. I'm sure you're aware that the glut is definitely a no-no for young peds.

[Noney]

I always use the ventrogluteal unless contraindicated.
9 times out of 10 the pt thanks me and says " You're right it does't hurt as much when you give it there!"

I think students should use the site because if you learn it earlir it'll stick.

[Murt]

As far as i can see the only im being given these days is the 10 day vit b1 (neurobion) given to alcoholics who are sobering up.
I never came acrss it inthe hopitals.

[KRVRN]

Dorsogluteal is the butt cheek and ventrogluteal is the hip area right???