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Nov 23, 2004, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LPNtoRN
It adds to the stress to have a nursing student watching you because you feel pressure to not make one little bobble or sure enough it will be spread all around how "nurse so and so" didn't check the patient's armband or wash her hands before leaving a patient's room. One thing you will learn is that real world nursing isn't the same as textbook nursing. Even though we all had to be student nurses once right or wrong I know a lot of nurses feel this way about students.
I hope you wash your hands when you leave the patients room, and when you enter, and between patients in the same room. I also hope you check each and every name band before giving meds, and doing procedures. There are just some things that should never be looked over.
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Nov 23, 2004, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by avery
Hi,
I am a B.S.N. Student in Texas. After talking to several other students from my school, it seems that very few nurses we have encountered even acknowledge that the students are there in the hospital. I feel as if they do not "wish" to have time for us. These are nurses with four or five patients who seem to have plenty of time for everything else but no time for students. Granted, I understand that students can get in the way and slow nurses down but most of us truly want to help. Maybe my persepctive is a lot different because I am in school and I see things idealisticly. I know everyone was a student once. I am just wondering how nurses feel when students are in the hospital? Do you personally feel differently about nursing than you did when you were still in nursing school?
Thanks for any thoughts or advice.
Avery
There is a lot of inmature nurses out there, and they are vary rude, as they are unhappy. Stich only with good ones. I loved working with students, they are the future of the nursing profession. I was idealistic as a student as well, and yes I have learned to feel different about nursing over the years. I loved it, than I hated it, and left it. I'm going to return to nursing, and finish my MSN. Always hold your head high, nursing is something to be proud of .
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Dec 22, 2004, 09:22 PM
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This coming semester I will be starting clinicals. I usually read all of the postings but have never replied or put up a posting regarding my feelings on certain subjects. This particular subject about how nurses treat student nurses has got me thinking about a few things. From what I can tell whether you are in an LPN or RN program we all basically learn the same things. The RN programs require a few more classes, but not that many more, and they are also required to do more clinical hours. In the end though, aren't we all becoming nurses for the same general reasons? I find it particularly appalling that some nurses, once being students themselves, have utter disrespect for nursing students. It makes me wonder if these same nurses treat their patients the same way they treat the nursing students.
I do applaud all of the nurses out there who do their best to teach and help the students. These students are the next generation and they could use your wisdom and talent. I pray every day to have patience with the nurses who choose to ignore the students or act like they are dirt under their shoe. Eventually those nurses will have to answer to SOMEONE about their actions in life.
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Jan 18, 2006, 09:31 PM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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Originally Posted by Haunted
Whenever I am fortunate to work with students, either LVN or RN, I always make it a point to COLLABORATE with them when providing care to the patient. I incorporate some humor, a bit of hand holding and a hug, (I had a student take the death of her patient very hard and she required a bit of sensitivity but was able to express her feelings to the family at the bedside, we all wept shamelessly) and I am notorious for writing each and every student up for some aspect of the care that they provided to the patient, the family or being a team player. I hand write it, make 2 copies, one for the student and one for the instructor and always focus on the positive. In case you can't tell, I have had some very distressing experiences in nursing school. I had one nurse set me up in first semester by handing me some applesauce to feed the patient, never knowing the nurse had crushed the patients meds. She went to get my instructor who witnessed me administering apple sauce (laced with the patient's meds) and I was given my first strike as we were not yet able to administer meds. Very dirty trick. I believe I am a better nurse because I had role models that were happy with the job, enjoyed people and had a sense of compassion and humor. They may not have been rocket scientists but they were heroes to me, and if I can leave the same impression on a student and they leave at the end of the day seeing me doing my job and loving it, then I serve them, the patient, my profession and myself. AMEN!
Too bad your'e not in Indiana.... There must be someone like you here somewhere..............
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Jan 18, 2006, 09:41 PM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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Hey!
You'll run into a few different breeds of nurses, besides nursing is infamous for "eating their young" but just remember when you are finished to never treat students like that. I think students are fantastic for any unit, they add to the skill level, they are truly happy to be there (unless the staff are a bunch of old cranks) and as an RN I get the opportunity to both share and gain knowledge. Besides they say you learn 90% of what you teach others! So hopefully the majority of the nurses you run into will want to act more as a mentor or educator instead of a cow. Best of luck to ya in your program!
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Jan 19, 2006, 09:29 AM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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These are nurses with four or five patients who seem to have plenty of time for everything else but no time for students.
HUH?!?
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Jan 19, 2006, 11:11 AM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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I love students
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Jan 19, 2006, 11:53 AM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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I like having students.and I truly believe the best way to learn is by doing...however the only students that have bugged me are the ones that act like they "know it all", have an attitude that "this is stupid" or keep interrupting while I'm trying to answer their previous question. I also prefer that students have done their reading. If a student has an excessive number of questions, I often ask them to write them down - especially if they are things he/she should have already researched or looked up ("what's hemoglobin again?") We have patients to take care of too! I am happy to work with students who are eager and prepared and willing to learn. Hope this helps and best of luck to all of you in your training
Last edited by lannisz : Jan 19, 2006 at 11:57 AM.
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Jan 19, 2006, 06:54 PM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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Oh, this has been revived, but seems relevant enough, that I'll now re-answer it, from the other side (i was a student when I first answered this thread)
Here is a way not to make a good impression on the staff nurse:
Night nurse is giving report to day nurse(me). nursing student listening, b/c she had one of the patients (we'll call her patient A). night nurse mentioned that patient A had been hypotensive, in the 90s, and sometimes 80s. Mentioned that he put her on falls precautions (b/c of the hypotension).
Nursing student says, in a very incredulous loud tone, interrupting, "Why is she on falls,there aren't any triggers on her chart?"
When I was a student, heck now as a nurse, I wouldn't have the balls to interrupt and half yell at a nurse if I didn't understand something.
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Jan 20, 2006, 12:15 AM
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Re: Your perception of student nurses when they visit your hospital?
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I like having students and I like teaching. If the student is far enough along, I will basically turn over a pt to them (obviously I'm still supervising meds etc) and give them the chance to have the resposibility for a pts care. I love questions though, even if they seem stupid! It shows me that the student isn't afraid to ask before doing something that they aren't sure about. Always be honest with your nurse, and if you aren't sure about something or are confused by what she or someone else says, ask! I'm sorry that there are nurses out there who are treating you badly, but unfortunatly you are always going to run into people like that -- no matter what profession you are in! Maybe they are/where having a bad day? Don't forget that they are people to, and you don't know where they are coming from just as they don't know where you are coming from. I am not excusing bad or rude behaviour at all; I hate that things like this happen, but maybe if you think in those terms, it will help you not to become as discouraged.
I had an experience my senior year where the nurse I was working with didn't like something that I did and instead of talking to me about it, she went straight to my supervisor who then came and accussed me of negligence. When I talked (and yes, I admit, cried!) and she heard the whole story, she (my supervisor) apologized and said that I was not in the wrong. I was hurt though that the nurse didn't come and talk to me and find out the whole situation before going to my supervisor. However, the next day when I came in, this nurse pulled me aside and apologized and said that she had been having a really bad day, and had made an assumption that she shouldn't have. She asked for my forgiveness and gave me a big hug: we are still friends today! I try and think about this whenever I am in a difficult sitaution with a student and remember to talk to them and get a clear picture of a situation, and help them to work it out. If I make mistakes than I apologize to my students - honesty is a two way street!
Sooo, my suggestion: be as prepared as you can, be honest, be diligent, ask for it if you need help. If you are doing those things and a nurse is being mean or rude know that you are doing all that you can, and try not to get too discouraged; eat chocolate! Good luck all you students - it is worth it in the end.
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