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Old Jul 20, 2007, 11:55 AM
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Question - Whats the largest empyema you've seen?

While at work one evening in the ER a gentleman was placed in my room with the diagnosis of SOB. I went in to do my RN assessment and while taking his history he disclosed that he had been running a fever with SOB for the past 3 weeks and became increasing SOB this evening. My assessment reveled a fever of 104.2 orally, and diminished breath sounds in the lobes of the left lung. I went ahead and started the pneumonia protocol, started his IV drew blood and blood cultures, ordered and Xray and started IV antibiotics.
The physician walked up to me and said," I dont think this man has pneumonia I think his lung is collapsed". I gathered my supplies to assist with chest tube insertion. The patient was sediated and the physician started the procedure.
At the point when he opened the pleural cavity an immediate gush of pus came running out of the patients chest, we placed the chest tube to suction via pleural -vac and immediately returned 2100 cc of pus into the collection chamber!!!!!
Needless to say that after the patient awoke from sediation he was feeling much better, except for the large chest tube we had just placed.
So even though he didn't have pneumonia, as I thought he was still in great need of IV antibiotics.


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Old Jul 20, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Re: Whats the largest empyema you've seen?

WOW! Great story. I've never seen anything near that big, but I'm a new grad.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 06:33 PM
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WOW!!!! 800 cc's is the largest I've heard of in my facility.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 06:57 PM
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Re: Whats the largest empyema you've seen?

My very first semester of nursing school in geriatrics we had a gentlemen who had to go get drained and they said they drained almost 2000 mL's out of him. I'm sure that felt better immediately for him.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 08:05 PM
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i had an abscess that abx didn't resolve.
the oral surgeon drained it of 450cc pus.
i can't tell you the relief i felt upon awakening.
i had been in terrible pain for wks before.
2100cc drained?
i can't imagine his relief.

leslie


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Holy Cow!!!

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 09:45 PM
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Dang.........

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Old Jul 21, 2007, 10:10 AM
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Do we have any idea what caused this??

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Old Jul 21, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Sheesh. I bet he DID feel better...

I've seen huge amounts (2-3+ liters) of malignant effusions, and even some patients with chyle effusions who put out enormous amounts... but empyema? Nothing like this.

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