[teeituptom]

Originally Posted by EricEnfermero

No posts to that thread for nearly a year, so while that thread did have to be redirected by moderators a couple of times, I don't know that it really reflects much of the current "personality" of Allnurses.

To request moderator action on a particular post, it is best to click on 'Report Post' so that it comes to our attention without the negativity being spread to other posts or threads. As volunteers, we're limited in the number of threads that we can read in a timely fashion. A few forums currently don't have any assigned moderators, so we're often doing it by committee. We rely on members to help us identify Terms of Service violations.

they took the report post button thingee away

[donster]

Originally Posted by teeituptom

they took the report post button thingee away

The red triangle is in the upper right corner in each and every post.

[teeituptom]

Originally Posted by Don3218

The red triangle is in the upper right corner in each and every post.

Is that what that is, I just thought it was cute all this time. It is kinda cutesey dont you think

[donster]

I never thought of it as cutesy, but I'll look at it again!

[GeminiTwinRN]

I saw several posts by people in the dementia thread where people DID apologize.

[multicollinearity]

I really think this thread is a common example of throwing the baby out with the bath water...not seeing the forest for the trees...etc.

What I mean by that is this: internet forums tend to be vast septic tanks of vile behavior. Ever been on an AOL board or Yahoo board? I have. I needed to take a shower after leaving.

So to pick and sift through threads in this nice and cordial place and whip negligible incidents up...? I think it's making a mountain out of a molehill.

[earle58]

Originally Posted by multicollinearity

So to pick and sift through threads in this nice and cordial place and whip negligible incidents up...? I think it's making a mountain out of a molehill.

especially where the questionable thread is a yr old.
is that the most recent incident the op could find?
if so, i think that's pretty, darned good.

more importantly, i've been a member for 7 yrs now.
from my heart, i find this bb to be one of the most supportive bridges i've yet to encounter.
it never ceases to amaze me, the impassioned, intelligent personalities i've read and communicated with.
i think that's why this particular bb is so addictive for so many.
brian and his staff, command and show respect, by encouraging a liberated freedom to exchange our thoughts.
the tos of service are crystal clear.
however, some posts are 10 shades of grey.
some posts, are seemingly angry but the words don't quite 'cross the line'.
almost, but it's negligible.
overall, i would say 98% of the debates, remain at the least, civil, and at best, highly productive.
w/o a doubt, brian runs a tight ship.
and i for one, am thrilled to be a member of the crew.

now, i think i'll read this thread everyone is referring to.

leslie

[TeleRNer]

Originally Posted by earle58 more importantly, i've been a member for 7 yrs now. from my heart, i find this bb to be one of the most supportive bridges i've yet to encounter. it never ceases to amaze me, the impassioned, intelligent personalities i've read and communicated with. i think that's why this particular bb is so addictive for so many. brian and his staff, command and show respect, by encouraging a liberated freedom to exchange our thoughts. the tos of service are crystal clear. however, some posts are 10 shades of grey. some posts, are seemingly angry but the words don't quite 'cross the line'. almost, but it's negligible. overall, i would say 98% of the debates, remain at the least, civil, and at best, highly productive. w/o a doubt, brian runs a tight ship. and i for one, am thrilled to be a member of the crew. now, i think i'll read this thread everyone is referring to. leslie

DITTO leslie earle...you have been reading my mail. I could not have expressed my contentment with this sight and its people any better than you. From the bottom of my web space heart, thank you LESLIE!!!

PS What better resource do I have than to gather understanding from everyone every time I visit this forum; really, I can't but help to introduce others to this site.

[kanzi monkey]

"Since when is it okay to call a person a troll, (whatever your dictionary definition)"

Sorry to harp on this, but I think you are missing the point about the "troll-calling"--people use the phrase "Internet Troll" to describe a person who is specifically trying to antagonize a group--that is, say things BECAUSE they are controversial for the sole purpose of upsetting people. "Internet Trolls" are not expressing true feelings or opinions. There are times when trolling is obvious--I've seen it a couple times on allnurses, but not much.

Now, that said, it is certainly NOT nice to call someone an internet troll if they aren't positive that the person IS actually trolling. I think in the case of that thread, #8 COULD have been trolling, but it definitely wasn't a cut and dry case. If someone IS suspected of trolling, it's more appropriate to ignore them than it is to antagonize them as that's what they're going for.

I think the reason people called this person a troll is because they actually believed that #8 was intentionally trying to rile them up just to get a reaction, which is really poor online etiquette. The following comments--about the brain anomaly and "being afraid for her patients" I sort of interpreted as being said by people who also felt that #8 was trolling.

If someone is being a troll, then people caught in the cross-fire are the victims. But again, they are best ignored. The case with #8 was definitely ambiguous--but at the point that people started name calling she had definitely made rude comments and insinuations that other nurses were "lazy" and not doing a good job. I think the trolling question comes about when you look at what someone is saying and realize that it is undeniably something that is intended to hurt or offend another. There are things that #8 said that she could not have possibly posted without realizing that people were going to feel hurt or accused--not just because she was expressing another opinion, but because her tone and her words were directly confrontational.

So, no, I don't think calling someone a troll is an effective way of dealing with that situation--if someone is, without question, a troll, the conversation should stop, and the thread discontinued. At the same time, I don't think that the people who DID call #8 names were doing it maliciously--I think they, unfortunately, had a difficult time controlling their emotions after reading the posts posted by #8, some of which are objectively offensive.

Also, as far as attitudes on this board go, I have found that this forum provides a very civil dialogue between nurses with different kinds and levels of experience. We don't always agree, but I've definitely found this to be an extremely diplomatic group. Threads like the inflammatory one that you posted as an example, where one nurse is ostracized and people throw out names are the exception.

You mentioned that you have seen a lot of this in the last few weeks--which threads are you talking about?

-Kan

[squeakykitty]

Originally Posted by ktwlpn

CRNI- I have to quote you from another thread-
"She's an adult, with a big communication problem and an even bigger personality problem....maybe she can find a job where she doesn't have to deal with people and can read the paper all day....
Like maybe the dog pound, or a dispatcher's office for a Maytag repairman....or phone sex hot line in the middle of the Nevada desert...
There is a certain criteria when it comes to working with the sick and elderly.....she clearly showed her employer and co-workers that she wasn't able to meet that criteria....."
crni >>>>>>>>>It seems that you don't practice what you are preaching here on a consistent basis....My frustration with the thread in question was the inability of the person to which you are referring to open her mind.Those of us who work with the Alzheimer's population have to deal with the resultant chaos caused by people like her.They refuse to LEARN.I am learning and growing every single day-I watch and learn from everyone I come into contact with- both younger and more experienced nurses.I don't ignore someone because they may have less education them I do or less experience because they may have a valid point.I don't start picking apart someone's grammar or spelling to deflect the attention from the fact that I really don't know what I'm talking about. The vast experience of the posters on that thread is overwhelmingly against that poster's view point.She was like a 4 yr old holding her fingers in her ears and chanting " I can't hear you,I can't hear you" Calling someone a "troll" is internet speak for someone who enjoys baiting the crowd.No worse then telling a fellow nurse she should work in a dog pound ...This person clearly showed she is not capable of meeting the criteria required to work with the demented,IMHO---she should work on a phone sex line,right?

I saw the other thread. The nurse she was talking about verbally abused elderly patients for incontinence and needing the commode.