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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:34 PM
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Question "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

In a class discussion (not a nursing class), someone brought up that there is a "secret" HIV vaccine in use in Africa that the FDA will not approve here. The statement was made that "they" are vaccinating babies so they won't get HIV and that there is also a "cure". All of this information is supposedly maintained is some obscure African government files and websites but the American public is not supposed to know about it. I have found information that there are vaccine trials going in Africa, but nothing has been proven as yet. Has anyone else heard this? I'd like to have good
information to go back with so that misinformation doesn't continue to spread. I did ask the person who made the statement to bring her "proof". As a nursing student, our program has stressed critical thinking. I want to see the valid research and clinical trials (yes, I am one that takes things apart to see how they work!) Thanks!

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:39 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

The problem is, you can't prove a negative. It is impossible. You can't prove that something doesn't exist. The best you can do is prove that something else does exist that makes the existence of the first thing illogical and therefore unlikely.

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

Ya gotta love the conspiracy theories ...

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:45 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

You can't 'cure' a virus. There's your proof right there...

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

They've been testing several potential HIV vaccines in Thailand, but none, thus far, have proved successful. There is no conspiracy and your classmate needs to remove their tinfoil hat.

If a successful and safe HIV vaccine existed, you better believe the drug companies would be all over it and we'd have mandatory HIV vaccination as part of the childhood series. That's a cash cow subsidized straight from the government and the single biggest argument against any conspiracy against miracle cures or vaccines, be it cancer, HIV, or otherwise.

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

You cant cure a virus, but as with polio and now HPV, you can create vaccines that prevent you from contracting it.

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

Survey Uncovers Surprising Attitudes Towards HIV Vaccine Research

"47 percent of African Americans, 26 percent of Hispanics, 13 percent of men who have sex with men, and 18 percent of the general population believe that an HIV vaccine already exists but is being kept a secret."

www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2005/hivsurvey.htm

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eta: not sure why link isn't working, but if you type it in, the website pops up.

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyRN View Post
You cant cure a virus, but as with polio and now HPV, you can create vaccines that prevent you from contracting it.
Sometimes...

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: "Secret" HIV Vaccine in use?

The first time I was in college (in 1990) I had a biology professor who told his class that there already was a vaccine but it was not being released. He reasoning was that the pharmaceutical companies made so much money of the HIV drugs that they would lose money if there was a vaccine. In his theory the testing was done in Africa also.

These stories have been around for a long time. I really hope they do have a vaccine soon. But I just do not think they would keep it secret if they did.

Just my oppinion.

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Old Jul 03, 2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy_dfw View Post
The first time I was in college (in 1990) I had a biology professor who told his class that there already was a vaccine but it was not being released. He reasoning was that the pharmaceutical companies made so much money of the HIV drugs that they would lose money if there was a vaccine. In his theory the testing was done in Africa also.

These stories have been around for a long time. I really hope they do have a vaccine soon. But I just do not think they would keep it secret if they did.

Just my oppinion.
Wouldn't the drug companies make a lot of money off a vaccine, too?

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