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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:20 AM
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Piggyback IV question

Say a primary line is running potassium chloride and you piggyback it with vanco, after the vanco is done, another piggyback of cipro needs to go up. My question is, do you change the secondary tubing to avoid cipro and vanco incompatibility?

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:29 AM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

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Say a primary line is running potassium chloride and you piggyback it with vanco, after the vanco is done, another piggyback of cipro needs to go up. My question is, do you change the secondary tubing to avoid cipro and vanco incompatibility?

Thanks.
I would change both the primary and secondary tubing. No mater if the primary tubing has potassium running, it still had the vanco running thru it.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:33 AM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

Yes, I would put different tubing on each antibiotic.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:34 AM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

Yes, definitely get new tubing, you can cap off the vanco tubing and reuse it (make sure it is dated, etc) they make special IV caps for that purpose, at least they do at my facility.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 03:16 AM
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ALways.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 04:48 AM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

strictly speaking, yes. but this would be one reason to hang all your piggybacks thru a NS main line....you back flush with the saline and use one tubing for all abt....

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 08:08 AM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

That works... if your primary IS normal saline. If the primary is not NS, as in the case the original post says, I would check compatibility with ANY/ALL piggys. At my facility, each piggy has its own tubing (dated) even if we're just running NS.

ALWAYS check compatibility.
ALWAYS check with the pharmacy when in doubt.
If in doubt about something, DON'T.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

I get what morte means. Having a designated antibiotic line of just NS and then you can piggyback all your antibiotics after you back flush.

The unfortunate thing about that is actually getting the piggyback in. We use Alaris pumps and it can take a lot longer than you would think it should to get the piggy backs in. Even after they ruled out user error (forgetting to unclamp the secondary tubing) it was still such a problem that policy changed and certain things like Vanc and KCL needed to be run in as a primary.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

Originally Posted by big apple View Post
Say a primary line is running potassium chloride and you piggyback it with vanco, after the vanco is done, another piggyback of cipro needs to go up. My question is, do you change the secondary tubing to avoid cipro and vanco incompatibility?

Thanks.
All new IVPB meds need their own PB tubing..I will spike a vanco bag and that bag has tubing all its own. If I hang cefapime, the cef gets its own line...if i go to hang another bag of vanco, i will just replace the first, old, used vanco bag with the new one...if im not using the pB then i cap the end and keep it on my pole..the tubing gets changed q72hrs. Some things just don't mix.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: Piggyback IV question

Originally Posted by morte View Post
strictly speaking, yes. but this would be one reason to hang all your piggybacks thru a NS main line....you back flush with the saline and use one tubing for all abt....
That's what I do as well. We don't have tubing for each Abx! What a mess!

I always have a dedicated NS line for Abx. If all my ports are full, then I'll just start a new IV for such an occasion. I back flush when I change over the IVPB bags.

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