[NYTramaRN]

LOL...holy crap! I'm sorry but the ED is my house, any resident and any outside attending is a visitor. The computers are for my charting and order completion. Each nurse in an area has their own work station and theres a residents/attendings room with 6 work stations.
I've chased all manner of 'professionals' off of my computer " I'm sorry but I need to work here, please find another screen".

Some MD's < and wanabee's= residents> need to get over themselves.
Without nurses a hospital is a 3rd rate hotel with oxygen outlets.

Paul

[canoehead]

Originally Posted by Jess1983

tell the doctors that thier knuckles are dragging again.

PML!

[twinmommy+2]

Thank God, we have a good nurses station. One meant for everyone. If we are not doing anything pressing or if its the doctor that is seeing most everyone on the floor that weekend day then we give them the room to work at that computer but for the most part we each get our shot at the computer.

[beautifulb]

It sounds like you guys all have halfway decent nursing stations and along with that, respect. I work in a small hospital (140 beds) and it feels as if sometimes that the nursing staff is second rate to the Dr's and the other disciplines as someone else had mentioned.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by beautifulb

It sounds like you guys all have halfway decent nursing stations and along with that, respect. I work in a small hospital (140 beds) and it feels as if sometimes that the nursing staff is second rate to the Dr's and the other disciplines as someone else had mentioned.

Every time I see "I work at a small hospital" and then see how many beds, I have to laugh.

We have 14 beds, 2 beds to a room and one of the rooms is saved for our post-partum moms.

Our nurse's station is the only place available for anyone to come to do anything with the patients. I don't feel it is exclusively just for nurses. When the docs are rounding, we are usually passing meds and don't even need to be in the station and our charting can certainly wait until after med pass at 8 a.m.

Most of the docs stand and chart on the outside of the nurse's station and one doc sits at one particular station (only one computer at the back of the station that we chart meds in ONLY). We all (docs, nurses, dietary, p.t., social work, discharge planner, etc.) chart with a pen on paper.

Since we all care for the patients, I'm not sure why all of us can't have access to the charts without getting into a pi$$ing contest about whose space this is.

steph

[mariedoreen]

We have an ample supply of portable laptops, computers set up in the nurse's lounge, and 3 computers available at the nurse's station. All they ask is that we leave one certain computer at the nurse's station clear for the docs to use when they're around. Sounds reasonable to me.

The OPs situation however, sounds awful. Talk about being treated like a second class citizien.

[Tweety]

We have a doctors room just off the nurses station. It's not a big deal to us. They have computers, to look up labs and a lot of Xrays are now online as well. There are several phones because they use it to dictate. They deserve a quite area away from the noise to dictate and write orders.

The doctors area isn't any nicer or bigger than the nurses station. And it's not necessarily off limits to nurses. What is nice is a doctor wants to use and area outside their area we can say "no, you need to go to the doctors dictation area and sit".

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by stevielynn

Since we all care for the patients, I'm not sure why all of us can't have access to the charts without getting into a pi$$ing contest about whose space this is.

steph

Steph, my unit is 3 times bigger than your entire hospital. You get 10 nurses and techs,10 students, doctors (who don't conveniently come during our med pass but all day and evening) and a social worker, a case manager, an insurance company, pt, ot, st among others, it's is a big deal to have some organization as to who goes where, and to have some limits set. I can't tell you how often I wonder around looking for an open space to sit and chart. Several of us take our mobile computers down the hallway just to get away from the maddness. It's something you can't appreciate from your standpoint. Just the other days I was in the middle of the nurses station "JUST ONCE I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A CHART I NEED! OR A PLACE TO SIT DOWN AND DOCUMENT!". (Not a major hissy fit, more of a vent). Your work environment sounds like Nirvana to me.

[P_RN]

We had this problem years ago. You know that cubicle furniture company Herman Miller?
Well while the HN was on vacation a couple of us kind of unhooked and reconnected the panels. Of course there were limited computer connections on a certain side (not the nurses'). We made up for it by having individual dicataphones in each of their new cubbies. We put a coffee pot there and guess what? We got away with it for nearly 10 years.

I'd really love to see a 4 hour "blue flu" (pink?) wherein the doctors and med students were left on their own. Fantasy I know.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by Tweety

Steph, my unit is 3 times bigger than your entire hospital. You get 10 nurses and techs,10 students, doctors (who don't conveniently come during our med pass but all day and evening) and a social worker, a case manager, an insurance company, pt, ot, st among others, it's is a big deal to have some organization as to who goes where, and to have some limits set. I can't tell you how often I wonder around looking for an open space to sit and chart. Several of us take our mobile computers down the hallway just to get away from the maddness. It's something you can't appreciate from your standpoint. Just the other days I was in the middle of the nurses station "JUST ONCE I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A CHART I NEED! OR A PLACE TO SIT DOWN AND DOCUMENT!". (Not a major hissy fit, more of a vent). Your work environment sounds like Nirvana to me.

I think the attitude permeates nursing wherever you work though. My "nirvana" still elicits comments from nurses about the nurse's station being too busy from 8-9:30. Dietary is in the charts, the docs have the charts, there is a multi-discipline meeting at 0900 with nurses, one doc and d/c planner, DON, etc.

We don't chart by computer. We all need the same chart. The labs are only found in the chart. The xray report is only in the chart. The EKG is only in the chart. Etc.

We have long periods of time where we don't do anything!!! After our initial patient assessment at 4 a.m. we usually have our assessments charted by 5 a.m. at the latest and then not much to do until 0630 blood sugars or 0730-0800 po meds. We sit and chat at the nurse's station, we eat, we read magazines or books.

And still nurses complain about too many people at the nurse's station during rounds. And we've had nurses do just what you did.

I realize I'm still in "Nirvana" though.

steph