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Old Mar 18, 2006, 07:11 PM
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Is this a normal policy?

My husband is an R.N. and he works the night shift (7a-7p). When he earns time off, it is paid at the dayshift rate (minus 4 bucks for shift differential). This kinda chaps my hide because taking earned time off means losing money. If he worked the day shift (which is a lot easier to staff) he wouldn't lose a dime if he took earned time off. In essence, day shift folk get paid relatively more for ETO than night shift.

Does this happen everywhere, or is his hospital particularly cheap? Any suggestions on points to make to the head honcho's about making this more fair?

Adri

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

This is how it has been at every hospital I have worked at

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 09:20 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

Both hospitals that I've worked at has this same policy. My mom works nites (different state) and the same thing applies. You lose the differential when calling in sick, taking a vacation or even taking leave of absence.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 09:39 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

I think the idea is that you are hired at X dollars an hour.
Day shift would get say, 20 per hour. Night nurse is also hired at 20 per hour, but get a $4 shift differential. They aren't hired at a higher pay rate. They just get the extra when working at night.

When you take time off, you aren't working at night, so you don't get the extra bucks.

I think the whole idea of it is, you weren't hired at 24 an hour, you were hired at 20.

so, no, dayshift does not get paid more for off time.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 11:17 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

Originally Posted by HappyNurse2005
I think the idea is that you are hired at X dollars an hour.
Day shift would get say, 20 per hour. Night nurse is also hired at 20 per hour, but get a $4 shift differential. They aren't hired at a higher pay rate. They just get the extra when working at night.

When you take time off, you aren't working at night, so you don't get the extra bucks.

I think the whole idea of it is, you weren't hired at 24 an hour, you were hired at 20.

so, no, dayshift does not get paid more for off time.

I think your explanation is correct. Differentials are not the same as base salary.

llg

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

This is how it has been at the 3 hospitals I have worked at. ETO or sick pay is paid at your base rate. It does not include any shift or weekend differential because you are not actually working for the off shift.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:59 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

That's how it's worked everywhere I've been employed over the years. You get hired at a base salary/hourly rate, and the shift differential is extra on top of the base rate, for the actual hourss you spend working evening or night shift.

Same as if you get pulled to day shift -- even though you usually work eves or nights, you don't get paid the shift differential for working a day shift ...

Day shift folk aren't getting "paid relatively more for ETO" -- your husband is getting "paid relatively more" for working nights. Everyone gets paid the same for ETO.

I doubt you'll have much luck convincing the administration that their policy is not "fair."

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:11 PM
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Maybe we are the exception? I get paid my regular base pay plus the pm shift differential for any paid time off I receive. I just checked my paycheck to be sure and yep, there it is. We are a union hospital and I believe this was written into our contract to ensure that we get paid what we normally would if we are taking our paid time off.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TweetiePieRN
Maybe we are the exception? I get paid my regular base pay plus the pm shift differential for any paid time off I receive. I just checked my paycheck to be sure and yep, there it is. We are a union hospital and I believe this was written into our contract to ensure that we get paid what we normally would if we are taking our paid time off.
I think what is at the heart of my frustration is that he signed onto permanent nights for the differential. If he works a dayshift in addition to his regularly scheduled shifts, he gets night time pay. But if he wants to take a day off he takes a cut. Somehow, even though I get what the other posters are saying, it still feels unfair. I'll get over it though

Adri

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 04:27 PM
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Re: Is this a normal policy?

[quote=lostdruid If he works a dayshift in addition to his regularly scheduled shifts, he gets night time pay. :

Adri[/QUOTE]

then he gets more than I do at my hospital, I work 7p-7a is i come in extra to help day shift I lose my differential then too

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