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Old Oct 31, 2002, 07:18 AM
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a lot of people tried to help Flores, including people he murdered

http://www.nursinghands.com/news/newsstory.html?1004071

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 09:57 AM
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Thank you for posting this. What a waste for everyone concerned.
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Old Oct 31, 2002, 10:02 AM
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So what if the school had taken further action due to the report filed? Had the school interevned due to his depression and attention seeking comments, he probably would have just viewed it as the school making another attempt to... bring him down, keep him out of nursing school, whatever. From the sounds of his letter, it appears to me that he had gotten a feeling like everyone was out to get him.

Definately a waste. Coulda, shoulda, woulda......

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 10:22 AM
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parnoid

It is easy to identify people who are paranoid. However, only a very small number of those people are actually dangerous. NO ONE, can really say which people are going to go off and which are not. Warning signs are increasing isolation and aggitation. Buying a gun is a bad sign, making threats is a bad sign. There are plenty of people who act like this and talk like this and never do anything. They create this fantasy world in which others are responsible for their problems. It is an escape for them to avoid taking responsiblity for their troubles, it is what blocks them from making progress. It is USA, the goverment, the aliens or the nursing professor, the guy down the street or Walt Disney. It is never them causing their own problems. If we had adequate mental health care in this country, most people in this state of mind would recieve attention. Events like this would be much less frequent. I refuse to blame the victims. PS This tirade failed to mention that many people turn to street drugs to help them deal with their mental state, needless to say things only get worse.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 10:50 AM
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well said oramar. Ive had experiences with a person like that. nothing thay do is their fault. always looking over there sholder. and boy do they hold a grudge. If you have a bad day, and we have all had those days ware you just say something you didnt mean, they never forget. It could be 4 years later and they would remember and be spitefull because of it. boy you hit the nail on the head.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 12:21 PM
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Walt Disney! I like that. He DID kill Bambi's mom, after all.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 12:58 PM
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see what I mean, always an excuse

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...42/detail.html

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 01:13 PM
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Not to turn this into a gun control debate again, but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock? (That's not what Walt killed Bambis mom with....)

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 01:21 PM
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The downside of a free market economy (and freedom in general for that matter)...

is that while it offers enourmous opportunity for gain, some people WILL lose. The problem is when people don't want to be "good" losers. Flores would have been better off pursueing a two year electrician apprecticeship (when it became clear he would flunk out) and making 50K a year in a trade than ending it all. Heck, for that matter he could have probably moved to Canada and escaped his student loans, child support obligations, received free health care AND financial assistance to boot! If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 06:46 PM
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Re: The downside of a free market economy (and freedom in general for that matter)...

Originally posted by Roland
If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.
I really don't think this person's paranoia and personal problems/issues would have been resolved by our (expensive) social safety nets. Canada does not want your failures and your nut-cases. It's not like life is perfect up here, either.

As far as escaping child support obligations, etc - I think you may be misinformed. I thought the canadian government had a good record of co-operating with american authorities to make sure that people ARE held up to responsibiliries such as this. Please don't talk about canada as if it's "home free" in a game of tag.

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