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Old Oct 31, 2002, 08:56 PM
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I had heard that almost anyone was granted "automatic"

refugee status for the asking until a hearing could be held (in some cases up to a year later). However, I had also read that Canada was in the process of tightening up that process. In any case there is a great deal of land of in the Yukon, and Northwest territories where I doubt anyone would go out of their way to find you (unless you were wanted for a felony). While this is far from an "ideal" lifestyle it beats killing a bunch of people and then yourself. Heck, for that matter he could have probably worked on a crab fishing boat in Alaska. Hard, dangerous work, but at least he could have made decent money (up to 40K for a months work even with little experience). Again it beats murder and suicide.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 09:15 PM
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but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock?
In this case probably not. But I know several people who hunt with pistols, Glocks included.

I personally hunt with my Colt Python, my Smith and Wesson N Frame, and my Desert Eagle in .50cal. Depending on the animal, I would hunt with a Glock in the appropriate caliber, if I had any use at all for Glocks, which I don't. And many times I just hunt with my camera and a very good telephoto lens.

So, I guess I am one of the gun nuts that was refered to on one of the other threads?


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Old Oct 31, 2002, 09:23 PM
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Re: I had heard that almost anyone was granted "automatic"

Originally posted by Roland
Again it beats murder and suicide.
Sure it does... you go nuts faster with isolation, though.... You suggesting the canadian wilderness as an alternative to this man's unfortunate mental health issues was just a bit too flippant for me. He can go hide in the washington mountains...
Still doesn't change how he feels, the causes of those feelings - or even necessarilly change how he deals with it. The ONLY thing is that in canada there is LESS access to guns - but yeah, people still have guns, both legal and illegal, so shootings still happen. People still violently lash out at others though - for any and all reasons. Moving them around the globe is NOT a solution.

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 09:54 PM
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If this guy can find the time and motivation to write a 22 page letter in APA format contemplating murder and lamenting over his hard life, perhaps his time would have been better spent actually studying for those courses he failed. And, his financial situation was in such disarray, yet he had the financial capacity to purchase a concealed weapon permit, 5 guns, and at least 200 rounds of ammunition (found on his person).

Linda


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Old Oct 31, 2002, 09:58 PM
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I think it all comes down to the concept of "personal responsibility"....

To what extent are people exempt from responsibility for a)their problems, and b) how they deal with their problems....?

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Old Oct 31, 2002, 11:44 PM
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Good points, Linda.

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Old Jul 21, 2007, 08:51 AM
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It is easy to identify people who are paranoid. However, only a very small number of those people are actually dangerous. NO ONE, can really say which people are going to go off and which are not. Warning signs are increasing isolation and aggitation. Buying a gun is a bad sign, making threats is a bad sign. There are plenty of people who act like this and talk like this and never do anything. They create this fantasy world in which others are responsible for their problems. It is an escape for them to avoid taking responsiblity for their troubles, it is what blocks them from making progress. It is USA, the goverment, the aliens or the nursing professor, the guy down the street or Walt Disney. It is never them causing their own problems. If we had adequate mental health care in this country, most people in this state of mind would recieve attention. Events like this would be much less frequent. I refuse to blame the victims. PS This tirade failed to mention that many people turn to street drugs to help them deal with their mental state, needless to say things only get worse.
I wrote this 5 years ago. I have no memory of the post or the incident, but if someone else had written it I would say it was a pretty good post. To bad I mispelled Paranoid in the title. LOL

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