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Dec 15, 2006, 09:24 AM
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We are tyring to implement self- scheduling, and it would be very helpful if we could see some sample self-scheudling guidelines. Can anyone please send me some?
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Dec 15, 2006, 09:34 AM
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We have a blank schedule where everyone can mark which days they prefer to work. It has to be done by a certain date. Then the assistant nurse manager takes it and tries to accomodate the requests. Not everyone gets it exactly as they request, but she tries to do it the best she can, depending on needs for that shift.
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Dec 15, 2006, 09:47 AM
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Good luck w/this,...it took our unit forever to get this up and going,.I've been there for 7 years and it has always been an issue,..we always asked and were always told "we tried in the past and it doesn't work",..finally we got it,.(about 2yrs ago) here is what we had to do,..
first off we all got together w/out our NM to be sure we all wanted this,.it won't work if only some of you want to do this,...we do our schedule 6 weeks at a time,..we all just repeat the same 6 week schedule,..if someone wants a day off it has to be vacation time or you have to find someone to trade w/you,.when someone quits the new person is "plugged into" the vacated spot,...
we all had to agree to this ahead of time,..we do computer scheduling and when the schedule is "open" we plug in our pre-agreed upon shifts,..if someone has requested time off the NM asks for volunteers to fill it,..if there are no takers she assigns the shifts,..we have some really great team players on our unit and it's working well for us now,...BTW only our Rn's are doing this as the aides couldn't seem to agree and they have a higher turn over rate, some work 12's others 8's etc, we also take turns each year w/holidays so right now our schedule is a bit off.....
Good luck,...hope this helps
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Dec 15, 2006, 09:58 AM
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Thanks-Do you have written guidelines, and what computer program do you use?
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Dec 15, 2006, 04:23 PM
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Not to be a downer, but... in my experience it has not worked. Everyone signs up for the same days( Tues, Wed, Thurs) and had to be moved around. Even after having a discussion w/ those people, it got worse. Noone signed up for their weekends or Holidays.
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Dec 15, 2006, 05:39 PM
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We are in the process of doing this. You must work every third weekend....I chose Sun, Mon, & Tue as my days to work...so when its my weekend Sat is just added to it. The schedule just keeps repeating. I am thinking about dropping Tue when I work Sat. We also have a set date as to requested days off....don't know how that will work.
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Dec 15, 2006, 11:36 PM
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"Thanks-Do you have written guidelines, and what computer program do you use?"
I will pay more attention next time I'm at work,...actually I think I can access it from home,....we really don't have written guidlines,..like I said we all had to agree,...if/when it becomes a problem our NM will start scheduling for all of us agian I'm sure,....I check on the name of the software for you.
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Dec 16, 2006, 01:37 AM
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It works, more or less. There's a grid/table where the dates/days of the week are across the top, and all our names/positions are down the left-hand side of the page. The blank schedule is then left out a few weeks before the next scheduled period begins and we write in the days and shifts we want to work. We all are required to work every other weekend, so on our blank schedule that's already filled in. Holidays are done on an alternating/rotating basis, so that's already decided in advance, too (unless management wants to make changes, which they always seem to do).
So, it's really mostly a Wish List of the days you prefer to work, no guarantees. Best you can do is put a sticky on the schedule begging for a certain day off if you really want it; only guarantee is to take a vacation day.
For the most part, though, it works pretty well. The last two months I only had a couple of days switched around on me, and neither was a big deal; management makes requests for additional days or switched days as needed, also no big deal, you can refuse once the self-schedule's been approved
I prefer this system, actually, to being scheduled without any input for regular days each week. Since I only work 3 12's, I'm glad to NOT be on an automatic schedule; I often find I need different days off each month and would constantly be trying to switch with someone.
Good luck!
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Dec 16, 2006, 01:52 AM
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I've done self scheduling in my last three jobs. It works best if there are written rules ahead of time:
1) Everyone works every other holiday. We have seven holidays, and I already know that I'm working Christmas this year, have NY off, work MLK day, have Memorial Day off, work July 4, have Labor Day off, work Thanksgiving, have Christmas off . . . . If you fail to sign yourself up for your holiday, you not only get signed up for it anyway, but aren't eligible to go into the pool for a low census day off on that day. No one makes that mistake twice!
2) Mondays and Fridays aren't popular days to work. We schedule 6 weeks at a time, and the requirement is that you work 6 Mondays and Fridays. (6 Mondays and no Fridays, 6 Fridays and no Mondays, 5 and 1, 2 and 4, 3 and 3 -- whatever works. Except holiday Mondays.) If you fail to schedule yourself for your Mondays and Fridays and someone catches it, you could find yourself working all 12.
3) You can request 6 days off and those 6 days are sacred. Want to "stack" your days so you can go to Paris for a long weekend? Want to get every Tuesday off for your "Women and Firearms" class? If you request 8 days off (and don't have an approved vacation) none of the requests count.
(Had some folks who were putting in their 3 shifts a week to work, then "requesting off" the other four days of the week. That rule has been relaxed a bit since it isn't so much of a problem now, but it's still in writing so if someone starts abusing it again, it can be dealt with swiftly.
4) You work two out of the six weekends. It doesn't matter which two, but the first people to get the schedule have first dibs.
5) The staff of around 100 nurses is divided into four groups, which take turns getting the schedule first. The first group to get the schedule gets pretty much what they want, the last group gets what's left. But next time, it's their turn to be first!
6) As long as you follow the rules, you don't get changed around too much. Those who don't follow the rules learn quickly. The schedule monitors are different every time, so favoritism doesn't take hold.
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Dec 16, 2006, 05:10 AM
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We all enter our requests on a website called Intragale from VasTech. It allows you to indicate the days you want to work and you can specify specific days you need off. One of our part-time nurses fine-tunes the schedule. It has worked well for us. I rarely am unhappy with my schedule.
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