[stuntdouble]

Hello everyone, I hope someone can help me out...

I was wondering if the German saying "Ein Indianer kennt keinen Schmerz" (literal english translation: "An Indian Brave Knows No Pain") has an equivalent in English.
...or is "An Indian Brave Knows No Pain" correct?!

Thanx a lot in advance!

[Gennaver]

Originally Posted by stuntdouble

Hello everyone, I hope someone can help me out...

I was wondering ...if the German saying "Ein Indianer kennt keinen Schmerz" (literal english translation: "An Indian Brave Knows No Pain") has an equivalent in English.
...or is "An Indian Brave Knows No Pain" correct?!

Thanx a lot in advance!

Hello Stuntdouble,

Your reason for posting this here makes little sense to me.

However, as a mixed cultured person, (Native and Euro) I consider re-hashing such stereotypical biases as insulting.

Why not pull up some ancient "Ancient Woodsmen of Germany" stereotypes and apply them or some other such thing? Catch my drift? Meaning, I do not viewe it as approrpriate.

Unless there is some other reason you are seeking dated, stereotypical and prejudicial biases.

Migwetch, (thanks in Ojibwemowin language)
Gen

[zenman]

Originally Posted by Gennaver

Hello Stuntdouble,

Your reason for posting this here makes little sense to me.

However, as a mixed cultured person, (Native and Euro) I consider re-hashing such stereotypical biases as insulting.

Why not pull up some ancient "Ancient Woodsmen of Germany" stereotypes and apply them or some other such thing? Catch my drift? Meaning, I do not viewe it as approrpriate.

Unless there is some other reason you are seeking dated, stereotypical and prejudicial biases.

Migwetch, (thanks in Ojibwemowin language)
Gen

Maybe she is trying to be more aware of cultural differences between people...a good thing.

Randy
(German, Dutch, Indian, Irish)

[sunny59]

I think it is simply "An Indian does not know pain"

We had to do presentations presenting "stereotypes" of different cultures, and how to avoid/correct them and how damaging they are, in our nursing program. I suspect this is why this question was asked. Not to insult anyone.

There are some very good books available on this subject, look up Cultural Nursing on Amazon - or Google it.

Sunny
German, Irish, Scot

[stuntdouble]

I'm really sorry, if I did upset someone with my question, which wasn't meant to insult anyone.

I just was curious about the cultural differences based on the saying in question, curious if it exists (or in a similar way) in English, if it's still in use etc.
I admit the saying sounds quite outdated, political incorrect and even stupid cause Indians feel pain too, but that's not my fault, I did not invented it.

maybe i should have added that the saying is used here in Germany when a kid gets injured and you try to convince the kid that crying is 'uncool'.

so, sorry again.

Originally Posted by sunny59

I think it is simply "An Indian does not know pain"

We had to do presentations presenting "stereotypes" of different cultures, and how to avoid/correct them and how damaging they are, in our nursing program. I suspect this is why this question was asked. Not to insult anyone.

There are some very good books available on this subject, look up Cultural Nursing on Amazon - or Google it.

Thanx Sunny!

[Gennaver]

Originally Posted by zenman

Maybe she is trying to be more aware of cultural differences between people...a good thing.

Randy
(German, Dutch, Indian, Irish)

Hello Randy,

Possibly this or maybe that, an introduction would have been wise.
Gen
p.s. it would also direct responses more appropriately too

[gr8rnpjt]

I live in USA and never heard anyone say this. But when my son cries, I give him a hug and kiss
I have heard the saying, "big boys dont cry" and maybe that comes from the same source.

[stuntdouble]

Originally Posted by gr8rnpjt

when my son cries, I give him a hug and kiss

yeah that is probably the best thing to do in those cases.

[Balder_LPN]

Originally Posted by gr8rnpjt

I live in USA and never heard anyone say this. But when my son cries, I give him a hug and kiss
I have heard the saying, "big boys dont cry" and maybe that comes from the same source.

Oh come on, talk about perpetuating stereotypes. Men have the same right to dosplay emotions as women.

sniff....sniff

[tutored]

Hey, Stuntdouble, don't feel so bad...I'm not so sure why you got your head bit off like that...to me, your question was an attempt to understand the meaning behind a saying from a culture different from your own. I used to live in Germany, where I heard that saying once. I explored that colliquialism with a group of german friends (I'm american, obviously), and found out that they have great, great respect and empathy for the continued plight of Native Americans, and how their land and lives were hijacked away. These young germans I met were more informed about the poverty that continues to exist on reservations, than many of our own. As I understood their use of the term (I speak German), it is not a racially-stereotyped saying. What I didn't realize until I moved there was how deeply ashamed many young germans are of their past around WWII. Don't be afraid to post again!