[RNsRWe]

Originally Posted by TraumaICURN

I get mixed reactions when I tell people that I am a nurse. Some people respect the nursing profession and others don't; but I think that is mainly due to people not knowing exactly what a nurse does. Some think that all we do is bathe patients, wipe their butts, and nothing else. They don't understand how much skill and knowledge is needed to be a nurse. I had one of my friends say to me, "You should have went to med school, you're too smart to be just a nurse." After she was admitted to the hospital for 2 weeks for renal failure, she realized how educated and skilled the nurses were and why nursing school was HELL for me!

If more people had a CLUE what we do, or had an epiphany like this patient you described, we'd all be better for it!

I find it that acquaintances who discover I am a nurse equate that with being "willing to serve" or some such thing. That nursing is a "calling" (please, let's NOT go there!!). They are always admiring, however, and that's nice. I always hear 'we need good nurses' or 'too bad there aren't more people like you, there's such a shortage'.

Hey, at least the general public LIKES us, outside of the hospital anyway, lol!

[Kelly_the_Great]

It's nice that we're the # 1 most trusted profession, I suppose.

However, I believe that's only b/c the perception of nursing by the general public is that of "angel" vs. "advocate," which is the direction of our image that we need to pursue and promote (imo).

BTW, speaking of the reaction you get from others once they discover you're a nurse, how many of you have experienced ppl then informing you that they used to be a nurse, when really the were a nurse aid, etc. (not a nurse in any case) or that they "know" as much as a nurse, etc. but just "didn't get their license"??? I've experienced this quite a few times and it is soooo aggravating!

[WeeBabyRN]

The oddest nice thing happened to me today. I was at this place, Main Dish Kitchen, premaking meals for when I have to work, so that we can have home cooked meals on nights I have to work. When I was leaving, I told the owner that I was a night shift nurse and that I hoped these meals were successful because I don't want to start eating out all the time. He asked where I worked and I told him Children's, he gave me a free dessert and a discount because I am a nurse at Children's and he said he appreciates all we do for his family. I told him he didn't have to do that but he insisted. I thanked him and it made me feel good that people appreciate what we do.

[CritterLover]

Originally Posted by SharonH, RN

As for the public's respect, that's nice but it's a hollow victory since most of the public has no idea what we really do and think we are lowly-educated pillow-fluffers and hand-holders who also are responsible for giving spongebaths and helping people to the bathroom.

I agree completely.

When the public thinks of a "nurse," they think of Florence Nightengale (am I even spelling her name right???). And even though they probably couldn't tell you what she did, they know they should admire her.

Even though what we do today is based in what Florence did/taught, it is (of course) so much more. So even if the public did understand all that she did and accomplished, it wouldn't help them much in understanding what we do today.

Truly, the public has no idea what we do. I've had similar experiences as TraumaICURN. I stood in the hallway one afternoon explaining the basics of the patho of hyperkalemia in an 80 yr old with bad pvd, renal insuf, and gangrene to her son. As this wasn't my patient, and I didn't know the exact details of her situation, I was giving him pretty general info. He looked at me afterwards and said "Wow, you're really smart. You should be a doctor." I wanted to say "Do you really think a doctor would take the time to explain all of this to you [especially if it wasn't his patient]???" Of course I didn't, but it was tempting.

I've had other encounters like this over the years, and all they do is convince me that while the public may think we're angels, they think we are dumb angels. I bet if they did a poll of the "smartest" professions, nursing wouldn't be anywhere near the top.

GardenDove, as to the careplans, I think they do have a point. They do direct our care, we just don't realize it anymore because the "nursing interventions" are mostly second nature. We have our post-ops T/C/DB even if the doctor didn't order it. It isn't something we have to be told to do. We do it the painful way in nursing school, but then we get the "easy" preprinted ones when we are working. And if we are unfamiliar with what kind of nursing interventions go along with a post-op total hip, we can look up the careplan.

[blueberrybon]

"BTW, speaking of the reaction you get from others once they discover you're a nurse, how many of you have experienced ppl then informing you that they used to be a nurse, when really the were a nurse aid, etc. (not a nurse in any case) or that they "know" as much as a nurse, etc. but just "didn't get their license"??? I've experienced this quite a few times and it is soooo aggravating!"

Yep, I've had that experience, but it doesn't aggravate me (probably b/c I've been in the profession only a short time and it hasn't started getting tiring yet). But I do know that I was there, in their place before; wishing I was in the actual "nursing" part of the nursing field. It's a bummer when you're not where you want so badly to be. So even though you're doing a wonderful thing, and are hopefully proud to be a much needed part of the "whole team" taking care of these patients, you want to be more. And as we all probably know, when you are happy with yourself and your work, description comes easier to the tongue than when you are not as happy or content with what you're doing.

I think it's similar when LPNs talk like they're RNs. Some of them probably do just as much work or more, but still aren't an RN and didn't go through the schooling that the RN did. But they seriously want to be "more useful, more knowledgeable, more admired", whatever it is that they seek from being a nurse.

In any event, I'm thankful that I was able to pursue what I wanted. I'm an LPN and happy to be one for now. I don't know if I want to be an RN. The only thing that would make me consider it would be the pay

Blue

[Works2xs]

I beleive that the poll question was couched in the following terms: "... occupations rated for their honesty and ethical standards"

I don't want to get off on a rant here...

.. but I don't think there's any real linkage between being hightly honest and/or ethical with being highly skilled. Not that I don't think that this is a laudable accomplishment. As a consumer, it's great when we find a professional where these two traits coincide. However, when it comes down to people voting with their wallet, they seem to look for skill first.

I'd even go so far as to say that the public's perception of our profession is based on an ideal that "caring" is more of an innate character trait than any "real" skill. To push the envelope a bit further, since "caring" is looked on as a virtue, and since our profession seems defined in those terms, people's response to us is along those lines - much like they'd admire someone who gives generously to charity. It's not a skill to be paid for, but rather a character trait to be admired.

In just the short time that I've been a nurse, it's been pretty clear to me that while we, as a profession, can't come to grips with how to define ourselves, there's precious little chance that we'll be able to communicate our true skills to anybody outside of the profession.

... to borrow a phrase from Dennis Miller... "that's just my opinion.. I could be wrong."

[CritterLover]

Originally Posted by Works2xs

I beleive that the poll question was couched in the following terms: "... occupations rated for their honesty and ethical standards"

I don't want to get off on a rant here...

.. but I don't think there's any real linkage between being hightly honest and/or ethical with being highly skilled. Not that I don't think that this is a laudable accomplishment. As a consumer, it's great when we find a professional where these two traits coincide. However, when it comes down to people voting with their wallet, they seem to look for skill first.

I'd even go so far as to say that the public's perception of our profession is based on an ideal that "caring" is more of an innate character trait than any "real" skill. To push the envelope a bit further, since "caring" is looked on as a virtue, and since our profession seems defined in those terms, people's response to us is along those lines - much like they'd admire someone who gives generously to charity. It's not a skill to be paid for, but rather a character trait to be admired.

In just the short time that I've been a nurse, it's been pretty clear to me that while we, as a profession, can't come to grips with how to define ourselves, there's precious little chance that we'll be able to communicate our true skills to anybody outside of the profession.

... to borrow a phrase from Dennis Miller... "that's just my opinion.. I could be wrong."

No, I think you are pretty much correct.

That is much of the problem, as I see it.

It is why we get dinged on PG type surveys for not getting that warm blanket for the AMI in the ER, even though we were the ones that recognized the s/s of the impending MI, and got the ball rolling to get treatment started; in short, even though we saved their life.

Patients think that the focus of nursing care is comfort and caring. They don't understand that while comfort and caring are a large part of what we do, they arn't everything, and they arn't the most important things, either. They give doctors the credit for saving their lives, when it may have been an alert nurse that really made the difference.

The pervasivness of this belief is evident by the attitudes the general public has about our "issues" such as safe staffing ratios. They don't understand what role a nurse really plays in their well-being. Really, most think that all we do is give out medicine and bathe people. The "assessment" part of nursing, which is really the core of nursing, is completely lost on most.

It is all very frustrating, and I'm not really sure what the answer is on how to fix it.

[GardenDove]

You guys make some valid points. I think you probably have a variety of perceptions, depending on the person you are talking to. Some people are more tuned in to the fact that nurses are technically saavy and medically knowledgable. We can reinforce that by giving intelligent explanations to them regarding their conditions.

Some patients are just very self centered, and do only consider nurses handmaidens and pillow-fluffers. I don't think you're going to change that portion of the population, no matter what.

[MIA-RN1]

I am proud to be a nurse and for me yes it is a calling (ducking from possible flames! lol)
But people have such skewered ideas of nurses. We could be on TV and having sex in the supply closets, or we could be cute and sexy little things like that little betty-boop scrub print (makes me cringe) or like the anime images with big bosoms and hypodermic needles.
Real nurses wear scrubs and probably have blood or vomit on their shoes.
People will never truly understand our profession unless they enter it. The things we do that prevent worse things from happening will go over the head of John Q Public.
As our nurse manager said, "a patient won't remember who took her blood pressure but she will remember the nurse that held her hand"
Well lovely.(:sarcastic grin Lets reinforce our angel image and forget all about the dedicated professionals we are. Well we are at it, lets get the visitors the extra pillows and blankets they are requesting and forget all about having to check the hemmorhage in the next room. (Gotta keep the PG scores up!)
Sorry. A major issue of mine is to be seen as a medical professional and not an angel in sensible shoes.
As to care plans--I think they are used by schools to teach us critical thinking (this is related to that. This is what I can do as a nurse to help) And then by the time we are in the real world for a while, they seem more and more pointless because we have mastered that skill of critical thinking and do it automatically.

[PANurseRN1]

Originally Posted by blueberrybon

"BTW, speaking of the reaction you get from others once they discover you're a nurse, how many of you have experienced ppl then informing you that they used to be a nurse, when really the were a nurse aid, etc. (not a nurse in any case) or that they "know" as much as a nurse, etc. but just "didn't get their license"??? I've experienced this quite a few times and it is soooo aggravating!"

Yep, I've had that experience, but it doesn't aggravate me (probably b/c I've been in the profession only a short time and it hasn't started getting tiring yet). But I do know that I was there, in their place before; wishing I was in the actual "nursing" part of the nursing field. It's a bummer when you're not where you want so badly to be. So even though you're doing a wonderful thing, and are hopefully proud to be a much needed part of the "whole team" taking care of these patients, you want to be more. And as we all probably know, when you are happy with yourself and your work, description comes easier to the tongue than when you are not as happy or content with what you're doing.

I think it's similar when LPNs talk like they're RNs. Some of them probably do just as much work or more, but still aren't an RN and didn't go through the schooling that the RN did. But they seriously want to be "more useful, more knowledgeable, more admired", whatever it is that they seek from being a nurse.

In any event, I'm thankful that I was able to pursue what I wanted. I'm an LPN and happy to be one for now. I don't know if I want to be an RN. The only thing that would make me consider it would be the pay

Blue

It should aggravate you. People who call themselves nurses but have no license are imposters. How many times have those of us who have been around the block had to correct inacurate info. that a well meaning non-nurse gave to a pt/family member? And how many times have we seen news items about a psycho-killer nurse, only to find out that the "nurse" was an aid/MA/clerk?

It should bother you. It should bother you deeply.