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by sjbrian

I'm a nursing student in my 3rd semester. It only a 13 month RN program and it feels like we haven't have a whole lot of clinical experience. So my question is....how do hospitals handle new grad situations when they hire? How much training does the average hospital give for new grads with no experience?

[jjjoy]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

I'm sure you're not the only who feel unprepared for the "real world."

It seems to be an unfortunate trend in nursing education to reduce the students' clinical experience. Even if a program may provide lots of hours of clinical time, it may be with only a few patients and only covering a small portion of actual nursing duties.

So then hospitals are having to supplement nursing education by offering longer orientation and preceptorships. During this time, the new grad is usually paired with an experienced nurse they split the care with the newbie taking on more and more over time.

I'd figure the longer the orientation, the better. Standard is probably 6-8 weeks. A local hospital I know of offers 4 months, but you need to give a 2 yr commitment or pay back the hospital for the training time. I've heard of as long as 6 months for specialty areas (eg. ICU).

So if you're feeling particularly unprepared, don't settle for taking any old job offer. If they're going to throw you off orientation in 3 weeks, that's not a good sign of how they support new grads. Even then, you can't know everything about a facility or about how you'll do, so if the first position doesn't work out, count it as a learning experience and try again.

If you have any access to your school's previous graduates, ask them about their experiences with orientation and local facilities.

[gradRN2007]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

hiya,
i am a new grad starting as a RN in June, my program was a part time transistional program, one day a week for 2 years only they cut it short and we ended in oct instead of dec. so 1/2 of day was clinicals and the other 1/2 was lecture...I am really nervous even though i have been in the lab at this hospital for >20 years.
I interviewed for a job in the intermediate ICU and got it (that was nerve racking the interivew), all i know is that i have 6 months orientation with a preceptor before I am on my own. I will work his/her schedule and will probably have to take phlebotomy, acls classes before i start at night..I have emailed a professor and asked if i could sit in on her assessment class for a refresher...i get more nervous everyday but excited too. DOn't feel incompetent but get all the experience you can with IV, foley etc..i have basically none...that would help a lot
good luck

[calla2114]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

I will also be graduating in May. I will start in the ICU after that. I get a minimun of 3 months on one on one orientation, and then I get a mentor nurse for another year, I believe on top of that. I will be in a classroom setting and on the floor during my orientation..taking all the classes..ACLS etc. I can extend my orientation if I feel the need to do so. Good Luck

[RN28MD]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

Hi there, let me tell you my experince when I was a GN (graduate nurse). I didn't have much clinical experience as well. I had only done IV pumps maybe twice and didn't remember much about it. I didn't have very good clinical instructors. I guess it all depends on them. Anyways I ended up going to a medical surgical floor and actually was scared to start working b/c I still needed to take my NCLEX to become a RN. SO i heard horror stories of how if you don't pass the exam the hospital take you off payroll as a GN and keeps you as a nursing aid. At least where I am you can stay but only do nursing aid stuff. I was so scared that that would happen so I didn't start the orientation right away. Then I decided to go to work do to family circumstances and ended up in the middle of orientation. It was hard b/c the nurses on the floor couldn't remember I didn't have the full orientation and where mean to me. THey thougt I asked to many questions. WEll I tell you this b/c in 4mos of working there I was so comfortable and felt very confident in my abilities as a nurse. The 1st mos is hard but you will get it down. By that time I was teaching students. So don't feel you are the only one. Just get a good preceptor ask many questions. good luck

[Tweety]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

No matter how they try nursing school just isn't the real world and it's entirely normal to feel incompetent. There's just so much to know and do you can't get it all in school.

Our new grad orientation is 12 weeks (or longer if they need it).

Remember there are many practicing nurses out there that did the same program, or similar, and are doing just fine.

[nad1914]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

Don't feel alone we've ALL been there. May I suggest you to take a position in a teaching hospital. After you,ve inquired about the length and flexibility of their orientation. Be intuitive during the interview, if you choose to enroll keep and an open communication with your Nurse Manager or initial interviewer. Be honest when asked about your progress. Hospitals invest so much on a new employe it it in their best interest to taylor the orientation according to your needs, remember we have all been there! Good luck.!

[droadracer]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

I start nursing school in Aug, this was such a good thread, and all the responses will give me something to think about down the road...thanks all...

[KellieNurse06]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

You are not alone...believe me! I am a new nurse myself..... I work home care doing 1 on 1 shifts in homes for hours at a time.....so I am just thrown in on my own........most nurses I have talked to tell me this is alot more responsibility than the hospital because there are always others around.......but in the home you are alone ,making judgements, calls etc........and if something goes wrong...you are alone with no help..except of course 911.......so believe me....if I can do it as a new nurse like this...so can you! And trust me.....I feel like you do most of the time........but it will all come together eventually....Good Luck!

[Halinja]

Re: I feel so incompetent....

Oh wow. You could have been sitting in my pocket tonight.

Tomorrow I have another practicum day. And I feel so useless and fumbling. I even managed to screw up when I DC'd an IV the other day. I feel hesitant facing my preceptor because I feel sure she must think I'm an idiot.

I don't always feel this way. Some days I feel like I'm helpful, like I'm learning. But tonight I'm worrying.