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  #21  
Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:07 PM
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I agree with ncamille...in your resignation please list the things you have mentioned in your post..also cc to administrator,heads of the corporation that runs the facility you work for and any one else that has any control of the way new employees are treated and who has access to your personal file...you can leave gracefully by submitting an resignation and stating the facts, do not make it personal and do not be on the defense..be honest..while it may not help you, it may help future nurses and will leave you with a sense of doing the right thing... if they are not paying what they stated in the beginning I can just about guarentee they will not pay your bonus...there is always something better out there..go for it and good luck....

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:11 PM
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As soon as I found out my orientation was beiing cut in half, and my pay would be $1.50 less than I'd been told, I would have been out of there.
It really helped me to think of my relationship with my employer as a business deal. If I make out ok, I'll stay. Sometimes a place is great for a specific purpose or for just a year or two, but as soon's I'm not getting a good deal, I move on.

This all sprang up out of a mistake I made that cost me thousands of dollars. I failed to renegotiate a weekend pay rate and three years later, found out that colleagues hired later, working the same shift, made $2/hr. more. I was understandably furious and hurt. It now made sense why I was always called first for overtime. It also made sense why I had to do so much overtime--I wasn't making enough.

So--lesson learned.

Of course, I would leave that place asap, if only on general principles. ("Rule #1: Thou shalt not lie to me about money, ever.")

Good luck, whatever you decide. But remember, there are plenty of jobs out there. You don't have to go through this.

Oh, and PS--I did get most of the money back. :hatparty:

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:21 PM
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I have learnedthe hard way that no matter what sacrifices you make for your employer they will cut you lose in an instant. So don't stay out of a personal responsibility principle. They will NEVER understand that.

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:21 PM
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Run fast and far and don't look back......

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:36 PM
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Another thought. At a $1.50 less per hour and not counting raises over time and overtime pay, that $1.50 less per hour comes to $31,200.00 less over a ten year period, based on a 40 hour week. And that money could have gone into a tax-deferred account, earning a pretty penny towards your retirement years. Screw 'um. LEAVE!!

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:43 PM
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Get out of Dodge and report those yahoo's to the labor board.

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 06:50 PM
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They established a policy that if something is found wrong, and it wasn't reported and they found evidence you should have known, you are as guilty as the one that did it. Oh this one really raised spirits..we still walk on egghshells and teamwork is NO MORE! No one trusts eachother, and you have to write everyone up all the time..even people you are close to to save your job! NICE huh? (we are talking nit picky items like caregivers not taking out the garbages per client room each shift...oh yes..this is a duty of theirs now..GRRRRRR!!!!!!).
Who is the genius who dreamed up this policy? Perfect way to eliminate teamwork. Even the Commissars in the old Red Army could take a few pointers from this!

This is sick!

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 07:01 PM
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Welcome to the jungle. This stuff is all way to familiar. This facility sounds way to far gone to try to change. You have to decide if you want to stay or not. Chock it up to experience, maybe next time you should get things in writing.

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Old Dec 04, 2004, 08:41 PM
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Do any of these hell holes have a union? If so file a grievance, if not get a job with a union contract. Then the hospital is bound by contract to keep thier promises.

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Old Dec 05, 2004, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TriageRN_34
Wow does this sound WAY to familiar! I will cut my experience down to my current job (I have another that was hospital too!).

When I went for my interview at my current position there were so many things I enjoyed about the facility! It was close to home, easy drive, part-time, weekends off, day shift 8-4 three to four days a week, no uniforms, shift differential, 401K, cost of living increases yearly, health with dental (I didn't qualify since I was part time), and we could have all the coffee or beverages you need. It was a relaxed happy place..and I had wished to work there, even though it was geriatrics (I was more geared for acute adult) for two years! I was to get a 6 week orientation, and was to be an administrative nurse helping the DON with QA, MAR's, and other paperwork...oh I was so happy!!!!!!

Okay that lasted about 6 months...something happened with upper management and things changed..and I am not kidding when I say OVERNIGHT! I went to work one day and there was mandatory meetings for all staff. Everything was taken away! Uniforms (at staff expense) to be purchased in one week and you can't come to work without them (okay finding a white vest was a bearcat in once week, I found one and we nurses shared it till everyone got theirs!). No more drinks. No personal items till they got lockers, and our cars were being broken into daily (I kept my stuff in my trunk..whew!). Shift differental cancled. 401K and cost of living increase cancled. Annual raises canceled (I don't know how they do it on merit as they say...so far no raises have been done in over a year!!!!!).

They established a policy that if something is found wrong, and it wasn't reported and they found evidence you should have known, you are as guilty as the one that did it. Oh this one really raised spirits..we still walk on egghshells and teamwork is NO MORE! No one trusts eachother, and you have to write everyone up all the time..even people you are close to to save your job! NICE huh? (we are talking nit picky items like caregivers not taking out the garbages per client room each shift...oh yes..this is a duty of theirs now..GRRRRRR!!!!!!).

The moral died...and it has never come back. You can feel the sadness still today in the halls of that day. And the meeting where some lady was yelling YELLING at all the staff about how horrible we were, lazy, no good, and couldn't be trusted. We had to sign a confidentialty agreement that was worded so badly I wasn't sure what I was signing...and you were instantly fired if you didn't sign it on your way out the door from that meeting. We all felt like criminals without trial...oh yeah...it was the WEEK before Christmas!!!!

I should have run, but it took me 6 months to get this job...now I am stuck! I have a house loan pending and can't quit, and since I have been working with geriatrics I am now labeled as "a rest home nurse" (even though it is assisted living and I am adminstration and floor nurse doing almost everything a hospital nurse does..but for 160 patients a shift!) and am instantly denied any job! I should have run!!!!!!!

My suggestion...at interviews or when you start signing papers..get EVERYTHING in writing BEFORE You sign on! If they breach the contract later you can pursue legal action if you wish. It is the only way to save your hide! You are a profesional, time to MAKE them realize it and get everything in contract...a piece of paper saying what you expect from them when you are signing papers about what they expect from you is fair!!!!!

Good luck..and please don't get stuck like I did...they keep taking, month by month they keep taking (they just took spouses and children off the insurance, and you must submit all appointment times/who to the administation or insurance won't pay..we are fighting that because that is breach of patient/MD confidentiality...AND some people stupidly signed a letter stating that our facility can ACCESS your medical records..it was hidden in a notice about health insurance...I caught it and begged folks not to sign...but I was too late for some!). Don't let it wait so long that your personal situation changes and you can't leave....

Once my loan goes through...I will look for another job (but I have two years at this place so I could get my home! I need that home because ours is about to fall apart...once I get it, I can have my options back!).

Good luck..sorry this was so long!
You know I'm pretty sure that it doesn't look bad on a loan if you change jobs as long as you stay in the same line of work. I wouldn't bet my life on it but I'm almost positive. Seems to me my loan officer told me that when I bought my house.... 6 years ago

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