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Old Oct 06, 2004, 12:25 AM
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Angry Has anyone else heard of "basic care NURSES"?

There is a school in Atlanta, GA that is putting out "basic care Nurses" They advertise that they get all the skills of LPN in six months, with NO core classes, NO NCLEX, NO regulation at all and all for the price of $6,600 ruffly. OH and guess what is it is taught by "DOCS". THIS MAKES ME MAD!!!!!!! Who do they think they are? I am working hard for my LPN, not to mention the stressing over it , these people are not doing any of that and are calling themselfs nurses!!!! Have any of you heard of this and what do you think? Are there any others out there?


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Old Oct 06, 2004, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nursingangel
There is a school in Atlanta, GA that is putting out "basic care Nurses" They advertise that they get all the skills of LPN in six months, with NO core classes, NO NCLEX, NO regulation at all and all for the price of $6,600 ruffly. OH and guess what is it is taught by "DOCS". THIS MAKES ME MAD!!!!!!! Who do they think they are? I am working hard for my LPN, not to mention the stressing over it , these people are not doing any of that and are calling themselfs nurses!!!! Have any of you heard of this and what do you think? Are there any others out there?
Sounds like fraud to me........

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 12:52 AM
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I am sure the state board of nursing would be very interested in these people caling themselves 'nurses"- maybe you should call to make sure they are aware of this situation

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by eak16
I am sure the state board of nursing would be very interested in these people caling themselves 'nurses"- maybe you should call to make sure they are aware of this situation
My nursing instructer told my class about this. She found an artical in the AJC so surly they have heard about it!! I mean it is on of the largest papers in the country. But I will get a copy of the artical and get in touch with them thanks!!

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 01:19 AM
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Basic Care Nurses???? Taught by MDs??? Interesting.

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 01:25 AM
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Hmmm that sounds suspicious to me -- Maybe the nurses should start teaching classes on Basic physician training and let the grads call themselves Doctor!! Would that not cause a problem or what??!! How irritating. We work hard for our title and our Licence and for people to call themselves nurses grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. It is bad enough that pts don't know who is the nurse and who is the houskeeper let alone if they are dealing with a real nurse or a basic non nurse.
Originally Posted by Nursingangel
My nursing instructer told my class about this. She found an artical in the AJC so surly they have heard about it!! I mean it is on of the largest papers in the country. But I will get a copy of the artical and get in touch with them thanks!!

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 01:29 AM
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I don't even think a year is long enough to learn to be a nurse, much less 6 months.
What will they be using these "GN's" for?

Sounds fishy to me.

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 02:30 AM
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Wow........not really sure what else to say. It sounds like its a medical assisting program gone bad. If the NCLEX isn't involved then they are not Nurses. I would call the GA BON and complain (don't even have to give your name, just alert them to the ad and maybe fax it over to them). Although I don't know the laws in GA, if these people wanted to get their REAL nursing liscense later they may be unable since they are illegally passing themselves off as nurses now.

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 02:43 AM
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Found this on google, and it's in the Atlanta area. Same one, I think. Sounds like a very involved medical assissting course, but someone needs to inform the folks that run it about the term 'nurse'. Apparently, the school has been in business since 2000.

http://www.ajcjobs.com/wl/Content.js...04_raines.html

New school opens another door to nursing field
By Laura Raines

A new faith-based Atlanta training school, The Nightingale Medical Institute, offers its students a chance to continue in the tradition of Florence Nightingale, the visionary 19th-century nurse. Despite society's beliefs that nursing was not a respectable profession for a well-educated woman, Nightingale not only pursued her calling, but raised its standards. In 1860, she founded the Nightingale Training School for nurses in England and also published, "Notes on Nursing," a text still in print today.

"Our goal is to graduate modern-day Nightingales who can be the eyes, ears and hands of an RN and help alleviate the nursing shortage in this country," said C. Harrison Braddy, Ph.D., and founder of the Atlanta institute. "By 2020, we're going to need about 750,000 more nurses. Who is going to provide health care, if we don't get more people into nursing careers?"

That question led Clive McNichol to establish the first Nightingale Medical Institute in Edmonton, Canada, four years ago. The faith-based, private, post-secondary school began teaching its students a wide variety of nursing skills and originated the Basic Care Nurse designation.

"We wanted to give students LPN-level skills, but in a program that was Christian-based and conveyed the six 'C's' of nursing: compassion, communication, commitment, competence, conscience and confidence," said McNichol, president of the institute.

Using a mix of classroom presentation, small group instruction, clinical and practicum experience, the school is able to train health care workers in a shorter period of time. Since 2000, they have graduated more than 1,500 Basic Care Nurses, who are working in more than 70 Canadian and American health care settings.

Braddy, a private education administrator, first met McNichol and learned of his unique nursing training on a mission trip to the Philippines a year ago. "I almost didn't make that trip, but at the last minute something told me I should go and I spent $1,700 on the ticket," Braddy said. "I realize that I was meant to meet McNichol and bring his nursing training concept to Atlanta. It took an enormous amount of work to get state authorization, equip a facility, find faculty and practicum sites, but I feel very good about our first group of students," he added.

Braddy said that the Nightingale program can turn out entry-level nurses in six to seven months, because the program "sticks to the meat of nursing." There are no general education courses and the training is competency-based. Unlike most nursing schools, the students are trained by physicians. There are both day and evening classes.

Nightingale students earn national certifications in six areas: phlebotomy, EKG, front office and back office skills, acute and chronic long-term care, glucose specialist and medical administration skills. The course prepares students for entry-level jobs in hospitals, health clinics, primary care centers, doctor's offices and assisted living facilities, making about $14 an hour and up.

"When employers ask what a Basic Care Nurse is, our students can show them their certifications. Those skills are not only understandable, but highly marketable," Braddy said.

The institute has enrolled its first class of 24 students and expects to accept new students about every six weeks. It also has a program to train certified massage therapists. Applicants need to have a high school diploma or GED, be able to read on a 10th grade level and have a desire to serve in the health care field. "We have students coming from IT and other areas who want to move to the medical arena, retirees and single parents looking for training to help them provide a better life for their children," Braddy said.

"If you feel called to work in health care, we want to give you the skills to fulfill your calling," he said. The tuition is $6,600, but the institute offers some scholarships, grants and flexible financial plans to qualified applicants. They also offer counseling and job placement assistance. "We're a one-stop career center," Braddy said.

For information, call 1-866-314-5267.

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Old Oct 06, 2004, 02:56 AM
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Google searched "basic care nurses"

STEAMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm running out of my ears after reading this PR job article and feel the nursing community needs to contact GA Board of Nursing re misleading article about nursing + Nightingale Medical Institute.

A. Article :
New school opens another door to nursing field

ajcjobs.com -- where atlanta goes to work

Selected exerpts that got my dander up:
A new faith-based Atlanta training school, The Nightingale Medical Institute...

Our goal is to graduate modern-day Nightingales who can be the eyes, ears and hands of an RN and help alleviate the nursing shortage in this country," said C. Harrison Braddy, Ph.D., and founder of the Atlanta institute.

We wanted to give students LPN-level skills...
Braddy said that the Nightingale program can turn out entry-level nurses in six to seven months, because the program "sticks to the meat of nursing. There are no general education courses and the training is competency-based. Unlike most nursing schools, the students are trained by physicians...

Nightingale students earn national certifications in six areas: phlebotomy, EKG, front office and back office skills, acute and chronic long-term care, glucose specialist and medical administration skills...

If you feel called to work in health care, we want to give you the skills to fulfill your calling," he said. The tuition is $6,600 ...


B. Found school listed as non-degree under GA
GNPEC - Directory Of Authorized Schools

Nightingale Medical Institute, LLC
399 Macedonia Road
Atlanta, GA 30354
1-866-314-5267
Dr. Ayo Mekinde, Director

Unable to verify that Dr. Ayo Mekinde is licensed physician at state website:
http://www.medicalboard.state.ga.us/bdsearch/index.html


C. Checked out GA LPN and RN licensure regulations:

RN:
43-34-26.1.
'Nurse' means a person who is a registered professional nurse licensed as such under Article 1 of Chapter 26 of this title.



43-26-2.
The purpose of this article is to protect, promote, and preserve the public health, safety, and welfare through legislative regulation and control of registered professional nursing education and practice. This article ensures that any person practicing or offering to practice nursing or using the title registered professional nurse, as defined in this article, within the State of Georgia, shall be licensed as provided in this article.
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/gl_codes_detail.pl?code=43-26-2

6) 'Practice nursing' or 'practice of nursing' means to perform for compensation or the performance for compensation of any act in the care and counsel of the ill, injured, or infirm, and in the promotion and maintenance of health with individuals, groups, or both throughout the life span. It requires substantial specialized knowledge of the humanities, natural sciences, social sciences, and nursing theory as a basis for assessment, nursing diagnosis, planning, intervention, and evaluation. It includes, but is not limited to, provision of nursing care; administration, supervision, evaluation, or any combination thereof, of nursing practice; teaching; counseling; the administration of medications and treatments as prescribed by a physician practicing medicine in accordance with Article 2 of Chapter 34 of this title, or a dentist practicing dentistry in accordance with Chapter 11 of this title, or a podiatrist practicing podiatry in accordance with Chapter 35 of this title.
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/gl_codes_detail.pl?code=43-26-3


LPN:
43-26-31.

The purpose of this article is to protect, promote, and preserve the public health, safety, and welfare through regulation and control of practical nursing education and practice. This article ensures that any person practicing or offering to practice practical nursing or using the title 'Licensed Practical Nurse,' as defined in this article, within the State of Georgia, shall be licensed as provided in this article.
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/cgi-bin...?code=43-26-31
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43-26-32.
(7) 'The practice of licensed practical nursing' means the provision of care for compensation, under the supervision of a physician practicing medicine, a dentist practicing dentistry, a podiatrist practicing podiatry, or a registered nurse practicing nursing in accordance with applicable provisions of law. Such care shall relate to the maintenance of health and prevention of illness through acts authorized by the board, which shall include, but not be limited to, the following: </FONT>
(A) Participating in the assessment, planning, implementation, and evaluation of the delivery of health care services and other specialized tasks when appropriately trained and consistent with board rules and regulations; </FONT>
(B) Providing direct personal patient observation, care, and assistance in hospitals, clinics, nursing homes, or emergency treatment facilities, or other health care facilities in areas of practice including, but not limited to: coronary care, intensive care, emergency treatment, surgical care and recovery, obstetrics, pediatrics, outpatient services, home health care, or other such areas of practice; </FONT>
(C) Performing comfort and safety measures; </FONT>
(D) Administering treatments and medication; and</FONT>
(E) Participating in the management and supervision of unlicensed personnel in the delivery of patient care.

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/cgi-bin...?code=43-26-32


D. Problems with this program as identified in the above article:

1. Nightingale Medical Institute--not a school of nursing, but an "institute".
Not accreditated by GA Board of Practical Nursing.

2. Nightingale program can turn out entry-level nurses...LPN-level skills
Nurses is a protected title in GA by state law. Does not meet the qualification of LPN program. Graduates are given "national certifications", not the same as diploma from a nursing program. Students are ineligible to sit for NCLEX-LPN, so unable to be licensed.

What the heck is a "glucose specialist"???

3. Students are trained by physicians: GA Board of nurses requires nursing educators to have RN license.

4. Tuition: $6,000 for a 6 month program????

Looks like FRAUD is being perpetrated on these students


E. Send your letters to:

Georgia Board of Nursing (RN)
237 Coliseum Drive
Macon, GA 31217-3858
Phone: (478) 207-1640
FAX: (478) 207-1660

http://www.sos.state.ga.us/plb/rn/

Executive Director
Sylvia L. Bond, RN, MSN, MBA


Nursing Education in Georgia or Status of International Licensure Application: Nursing Education Consultant
Julia E. Gould, RN, MS

Disciplinary Process, Filing a Complaint Against a Registered Nurse, Public Sanctions, or Consent Orders: Nursing Consultant – Discipline/Legal
Frank Brown, RN, BSN, CLC

Georgia State Board of Licensed
Practical
Nurses
237 Coliseum Drive
Macon, GA 31217-3858


Phone: (478) 207-1300
FAX: (478) 207-1633

mailto:fmackey@sos.state.ga.us
"The nursing programs approved by the board offer 700 hours of clinical education as well as 700 hours of theory."



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