[NurseGuy_in_06]

Originally Posted by CHATSDALE

if the nurses are members of the union and they were there to protest the way they were treated and to protest that the patients endangerment then it would be difficult to see how they would be called 'special interest' groups...to say that they should be ignored because they have a position that is different than his shows that he is only a governor to his own 'special interests'

I think that one of the reasons health care costs so much and therefore leaves much less money to go for nurses wages is the drain that illegals put on the system. My solution to increase the profits of the hospitals and thereby increase the money available to the nursing profession is to bill the federal government for the services performed on illegals. The federal govt. is supposed to protect our borders. And before you say we pay the taxes they will spend I say tax any company that moves their production overseas to pay for it. Also tax any company here that hires a certain % of their workforce from non-citizens. This is exactly what the border states are beginning to do.

[NurseGuy_in_06]

Originally Posted by begalli

NurseGuy - I'm sorry, I just realized that my post #7 should have been to TraigeNurse.

Again, sorry.

Hey, if I didn't have a thick skin I couldn't be a nurse, right?

[SmilingBluEyes]

Originally Posted by NurseGuy_in_06

I think that one of the reasons health care costs so much and therefore leaves much less money to go for nurses wages is the drain that illegals put on the system. My solution to increase the profits of the hospitals and thereby increase the money available to the nursing profession is to bill the federal government for the services performed on illegals. The federal govt. is supposed to protect our borders. And before you say we pay the taxes they will spend I say tax any company that moves their production overseas to pay for it. Also tax any company here that hires a certain % of their workforce from non-citizens. This is exactly what the border states are beginning to do.

you know, you are onto something there.......

[dazzle256]

Originally Posted by tommycher

If I read the article correctly, he was calling the union a special interest group, not the nursing profession as a whole a special interest group. I find it hard to believe people use so much energy to protest a 1:6 ratio on a med/surg floor! What do they do when they get that next admit due to the ER overflowing, and the floor was originally staffed in the morning for what the census was at that time? Are they unable to handle new admits? Even with the on-call nurse coming in to help, sometimes it is hard to predict how many times the new admits will make the rounds of the nurses available. Do what you can, stabilize the patients, and then we have, guess what? ANOTHER SHIFT COMING IN! I would love to have fewer pts. per shift, but what would the extra staffing do to the cost of healthcare? The profit of the hospital? We already have another thread here about how Americans are deprived of healthcare. The nurses apparently acted in an unprofessional manner, that is too bad. But, if you can't stand the heat, as they say.....

Personally I think a 1:6 patient ratio on med/surg is a lot. I really don't care what everyone is doing. The nurses in California are doing the right thing and if they get changes in nurse patient ratios nurses all over the country will benefit.

"I would love to have fewer pts. per shift, but what would the extra staffing do to the cost of healthcare?"

The high cost of healthcare is not because of nurses. I don't know how long you have been a nurse or what experience you have but I could write a book about the wasted money in healthcare. Its not nurses who want to take care of their patients. That really hit a nerve.

[Hellllllo Nurse]

I thought this would happen when Arnold was voted in. I can't believe the people of Calif would pick such a person.

Is the CNA going to fight back?

[SmilingBluEyes]

Originally Posted by dazzle256

Personally I think a 1:6 patient ratio on med/surg is a lot. I really don't care what everyone is doing. The nurses in California are doing the right thing and if they get changes in nurse patient ratios nurses all over the country will benefit.

"I would love to have fewer pts. per shift, but what would the extra staffing do to the cost of healthcare?"

The high cost of healthcare is not because of nurses. I don't know how long you have been a nurse or what experience you have but I could write a book about the wasted money in healthcare. Its not nurses who want to take care of their patients. That really hit a nerve.

It hit a nerve with me also. And, it Sounds more like an administrator or manager making these comments, not a staff nurse. Maybe that explains it.....

[Hellllllo Nurse]

Originally Posted by tommycher

If I read the article correctly, he was calling the union a special interest group, not the nursing profession as a whole a special interest group. I find it hard to believe people use so much energy to protest a 1:6 ratio on a med/surg floor! What do they do when they get that next admit due to the ER overflowing, and the floor was originally staffed in the morning for what the census was at that time? Are they unable to handle new admits? Even with the on-call nurse coming in to help, sometimes it is hard to predict how many times the new admits will make the rounds of the nurses available. Do what you can, stabilize the patients, and then we have, guess what? ANOTHER SHIFT COMING IN! I would love to have fewer pts. per shift, but what would the extra staffing do to the cost of healthcare? The profit of the hospital? We already have another thread here about how Americans are deprived of healthcare. The nurses apparently acted in an unprofessional manner, that is too bad. But, if you can't stand the heat, as they say.....

tommycher,
Your avatar is really cute but your views are making me ill.

[Marie_LPN, RN]

A major example of why voting him in was a bad idea.

[Gomer]

The man is an idiot! He treats nurses, and women in general, like objects to meet his own personal needs and desires. HIPAA aside, he has been a patient at a hospital I used to work at and he was one nasty self-centered patient (Maria was also a patient and she's no bargain either). He won the election because we Californians are idiots too. Thank God, at this time, he can't run for President.

[dazzle256]

Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes

It hit a nerve with me also. And, it Sounds more like an administrator or manager making these comments, not a staff nurse. Maybe that explains it.....

Here is a thought....reduction in administrative and managerial positions.