[nursemike]

fluffernutter vs. pb&j

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My experience is too limited to say whether male nurses advance faster. Not relevent to me, since all I want to be is a med-surg bedside nurse. As for pay, I still think you'd have to account for OT, perdiem, on-call, etc. to make a meaningful comparison.

I've been told repeatedly that being male helped me get into nursing school, but it ain't so--admissions are based on a completely objective scale, and the highest scores get in. Doesn't even ask about gender. But there's no point arguing with the ones who say it. I'll get my job based on the simple fact that my supervisors like my work ethic and I'll have an RN license. I suppose it could become relevent if I go somewhere else, but it looks to me like most places are taking any nurse they can get.

I have mixed feelings on the union thing. I'm union, now, and all it has really done is keep lazy people on the job so I can do their work. Our non-union nurses get more raises and better benefits. But managers change, and a union can be good protection if you get one who just doesn't like your hairstyle.

[barefootlady]

It seems like I stepped on a few toes sharing my experience with a male counterpart recently. As I stated, I have worked with a few good male nurses. Unfortunately my experience with male nurses, while not really limited, has been less than outstanding. To those of you on this BB who are male, and do your jobs and care about your patients, I offer an apology. To the ones who don't, enough said.
By the way, you people missed some real good lines about marrying cousins, being on welfare, and holler trash.

[SmilingBluEyes]

I think generalizations have no place on any thread, here is no exception.

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

It seems like I stepped on a few toes sharing my experience with a male counterpart recently. As I stated, I have worked with a few good male nurses. Unfortunately my experience with male nurses, while not really limited, has been less than outstanding. To those of you on this BB who are male, and do your jobs and care about your patients, I offer an apology. To the ones who don't, enough said.
By the way, you people missed some real good lines about marrying cousins, being on welfare, and holler trash.

If that's your experience, then that's your experience.

Now that I think about, my job is stressful, I spend most of my time verifying secretaries orders, doing 24 hour chart checks, helping out on the unit, being short-staffed, having to put up with a lot of crap from co-workers, the manager, and the supervisors. Unfortunately my experience with females nurses, now that I think about, as been less than outstanding.

[NP2BE]

Originally Posted by PickMePlze

Not saying its right but I think the fact that men make more than women comes from the antiquated view that men are the "breadwinners" therefore should make a decent amount more than women.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case anymore. More and more women are heads of families for various reasons and are responsible for everything financially and its harder to do it on minimal income. They should be able to make the same amount as men since women are filling the same roles that were traditionally held by men.

Can't remember the last time I had an oppurtunity to marry a working woman and raise the family.

[SmilingBluEyes]

Originally Posted by NP2BE

Can't remember the last time I had an oppurtunity to marry a working woman and raise the family.

meaning what exactly?

[Dixiecup]

The same company that advanced the male over me had mandatory inservices twice a year on what to do if anyone approached you regarding unions. It was like a four letter word and we were not to even think about it. Corrective action would be taken if it were known we were talking about it and I'm sure there would be a way to terminate the person. Salaries were also off limits and very secret. They just weren't discussed, period! It was like a criminal act if you were known to tell your salary or discuss someone else's. It took me thirteen years but I finally had enough and left that company. I was lost for a long time, actually still am but I couldn't stand the mistreatment any longer. Now I don't know where I belong so I'm going back to school to be a NP but of course if I go up against a male for the same job I'm sure he'll be picked and offered more salary. Sorry to sound so bitter, just been burned too many times!

[barefootlady]

Sorry for your experience. Hope the new career path brings you much more happiness.

[NP2BE]

Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes

meaning what exactly?

Im all for equality in pay, but lets not kid ourselves, women have the very socially acceptable option of being housewife and mother, men don't get that option except in rare cases and on TV and movies. Most people would character assasinate any man who took that route

[barefootlady]

I know at least 5 men who took that route and no one attempted to assasinate their character or anything else about them. Funny ???