[reddgott]

"Because of the view people have of men in nursing many feel that they must show that they do belong in nursing. I've noticed that allot of guys tend to go overboard to show that they "know their stuff".
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"I watch peoples reactions when I tell them I'm a nurse and I don't get the same reaction that my friends do. Some openly laugh and say "Isn't that a girls job?" others look surprised and change the subject and many many times the next question they ask is "do you have children?" which is code for "are you gay?" Another aspect of this is constantly having to answer the "so why did you go into nursing" question that I get when ever I meet a new nurse, they don't ask other women."

This is the Gospel Truth, right on the money. :hatparty:

[Havin' A Party!]

Originally Posted by teeituptom

Damn, he was stupid

Yeah, maybe like a fox.

Could he have parlayed his experience to an even higher-paying spot?

[Havin' A Party!]

Originally Posted by Dayray

... You know, this kind of stuff erks me! if this type of junk were written about any other collective group of people it would be erased and the poster baned...

Doesn't surprise me the least bit.

Lots of prejudices / closed-mindedness here. Not everyone, by any means, but there's a plethora of examples on other posts / threads.

[NP2BE]

Originally Posted by teeituptom

Damn, he was stupid

my thoughts exactly

[NP2BE]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

In my many years of nursing I have worked with a few good male nurses, ones I would share a shift with anytime, anyplace, anyhow. But, in general, I have worked with male nurses who just did not do their work, used the flirty, smiling, brown-nosing attitude to get ahead, and then when the job was too much for them tried to con some poor female into "giving me a hand with this."
I heard ,just this weekend ,that one guy in particular had finally been called on the carpet by an older, experienced, drill sargent-type nurse, from what I hear she refuses to let him back in her department, will come in and cover herself, but he is never to come back. Seems like he just did not get around to giving that second unit of blood, HGB was only 7.1, so no rush, let the good old day shift RN,female ofcourse, do it. When I worked with this guy and NONE of the 06:00am meds or fingersticks were done and I complained, I was told he was managing other problems, even when I showed a pattern, so I am glad someone with clout got his butt.P.S. the other problems were computer games with the ER male nurse.

there is that whole us vs them crap. immature and futile

[Tweety]

Right now I'm the only male on night shift. I work on a relatively new unit compared to other units as it was created about 1 1/2 years ago. I've been working the hospital longer than anyone on the unit and probably make the most money. Privy to the salaries of the night I know I make the most money on the night shift, except for the Travelers of course.

This is my story and my opinion: I've never felt any advantage being male. I've felt as one of two male nursing students and usually one of only a handful of males working on the various med-surg units I've worked on, I've felt I've stood out and was scrutinized a bit more and have been driven to succeed and to prove myself. So if I have the promotion and the bucks (I've never had to negotiate) it's because I've earned it and not because it was handed to me. Part of it is my overachieving people-pleasing kind of attitude as well, but part is definately being a male in a female field and having to "prove" myself.

I've worked with a lot of lazy good for nothing nurses both male and female. But I haven't seen any advantage to being male in my nursing career. I've also worked primarily at a hospital with a female CEO and females in all the positions of "power" in the nursing department.

But that's my story and we all have different stories and experiences to tell. I've found the articles interesting and a bit disappointing. One would think we've moved beyond that.

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

In my many years of nursing I have worked with a few good male nurses, ones I would share a shift with anytime, anyplace, anyhow. But, in general, I have worked with male nurses who just did not do their work, used the flirty, smiling, brown-nosing attitude to get ahead, and then when the job was too much for them tried to con some poor female into "giving me a hand with this."
I heard ,just this weekend ,that one guy in particular had finally been called on the carpet by an older, experienced, drill sargent-type nurse, from what I hear she refuses to let him back in her department, will come in and cover herself, but he is never to come back. Seems like he just did not get around to giving that second unit of blood, HGB was only 7.1, so no rush, let the good old day shift RN,female ofcourse, do it. When I worked with this guy and NONE of the 06:00am meds or fingersticks were done and I complained, I was told he was managing other problems, even when I showed a pattern, so I am glad someone with clout got his butt.P.S. the other problems were computer games with the ER male nurse.

I usually admire what you have to say, but I have to say I this one bothers me. I can pick plenty of females that do not do their work and pass things on the to next shift and are downright dangerous, that flirt whenever a doc comes in, on and on.

I'm not saying your experiences aren't valid. But we all have stories to tell about lazy nurses. What does his being male have to do with it?

[OZ88]

Male vs female nurses. I've dealt with this issue for 20 years in health care nursing. What I've come up with is that really, we are all nurses. All with different traits and characteristics. If a nurse makes a mistake it is not because she's a female or a male, they are equal "a nurse". The personality of nurses and how they get along with the patients and their fellow workers is the key here. Confident, well educated nurses seem to move up the ladder in any organisation, and I've seen some females with these traits do a very good job. I have to admit though that it is the males that get noticed and are more scrutinised at their decisions, more under the microscope. I have many friends who are female co-workers and share good working relations with them, but we don't hang out after working hours. I believe that this is the biggest difference between nursing and other professions.
Having a balance of male and female staff staff is the key to a healthy workplace. Men and women have different styles and can compliment and bring more diversity to the profession. You can not give generalities to "this is what male nurses are like" I've seen variations of both. Many of our regional mangers are females who got there because of the "tough" managing styles they represent. I wondered if the same managing styles were displayed by "male" managers whether it would be seen as being too agressive. Right now in the region I work in, we have no male managers in nursing. Boy, I should be ticked right off! Nah. The nursing profession is what you make of it. There will always be the negative, bitter ones who will try to bring you down, for whatever reason. I don't think, however that it is any different in other workforces.

[SmilingBluEyes]

Originally Posted by 3rdShiftGuy

I've worked with a lot of lazy good for nothing nurses both male and female. But I haven't seen any advantage to being male in my nursing career. I've also worked primarily at a hospital with a female CEO and females in all the positions of "power" in the nursing department.

But that's my story and we all have different stories and experiences to tell. I've found the articles interesting and a bit disappointing. One would think we've moved beyond that.

AMEN AND AMEN, can we NOT move beyond it already? Give me a unionized facility anytime. I Have worked in both non-union and union, and our wages are NOT secret and MEN do not have a leg-up on women where I work. It's more fair, althought imperfect. At least we all start on even ground. Like I have said before, give me a qualified nurse, gender, sexual preference, race, religious background DO NOT MATTER.

[PickMePlze]

Not saying its right but I think the fact that men make more than women comes from the antiquated view that men are the "breadwinners" therefore should make a decent amount more than women.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case anymore. More and more women are heads of families for various reasons and are responsible for everything financially and its harder to do it on minimal income. They should be able to make the same amount as men since women are filling the same roles that were traditionally held by men.