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  #131  
Old Apr 23, 2002, 03:54 PM
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Is it not stipulated in your contract that you will not be forced to float or work different hours than agreed upon by you?

I know several critical care NM's in this area who approached me to contract ....then the staff found out. They threw a hissy fit when they found out I would only take a contract IF I could choose my hours, not float, and take turns being canceled in low census with the regular staff. They pitched a fit, I shrugged and backed out, and stayed per diem. Who needs that BS? LOL!

Don't let them manipulate you, girlfriend, stand firm and don't let 'em push you around! Good luck!

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  #132  
Old Apr 23, 2002, 04:34 PM
Brownms46 (Female)
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Originally posted by mattsmom81
Is it not stipulated in your contract that you will not be forced to float or work different hours than agreed upon by you?

I know several critical care NM's in this area who approached me to contract ....then the staff found out. They threw a hissy fit when they found out I would only take a contract IF I could choose my hours, not float, and take turns being canceled in low census with the regular staff. They pitched a fit, I shrugged and backed out, and stayed per diem. Who needs that BS? LOL!

Don't let them manipulate you, girlfriend, stand firm and don't let 'em push you around! Good luck!
Not in contract about floating...but contracts stats hrs are 7p to 7a....but I verbally agreed to do 2 12s and 2 8s...only because I wanted to stay here for at least 6 mos....and didn't want to appear inflexible. I don't mind floating...as I probably would get a better assigment on another unit...but when I was here before I was NEVER floated...and for a unit that has more contract then staff sometimes on duty...I see no reason why anyone should be floated....EXCEPT....for the fact that maybe this hospital has been playing games with per diem agency staff and cancelling at the last min and such...and NOW can't get per diem to answer the calls for help! The nite I was floated...I also went to the other unit as my unit had no AIDE and routinely almost everyone was a daily wt and on FS BS either q6 or AC & HS....so I probably got the better deal!!!

Beleive me....it is rare that I let anyone push me anywhere! I'm just as vocal offliine as I am online...and anyone who knows me...knows I can be a real B when I get rubbed the wrong way too often! :0. Thanks for the encouragement mattsmom....right now I'm on a mission to help my duaghter finish her education....and for me to finish mine! So this position is a means to an end! If I can do this contract and one more ..ALL bills will be paid off....and I and she will be in the clear with no debt!!! So yes...I will play along for now...as long as I can...and just hope to God I can keep my emotions in check.

If NOT there is always per diem....and there is plenty of work in the area..

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  #133  
Old Apr 24, 2002, 03:43 AM
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I am less than a month away from finishing nursing school. I have worked in the hospital environment for the last 4 years, because I wanted to make sure that this was what I really wanted. I have worked in a moderately busy ER for just over 3 years, and while I love where I am, it took me quite a while to feel that I was a part of the team. Nursing school has been quite an eye opener. I have found the clinical aspects to be the most challenging, simply because you never know what type of reception you're going to get on the nursing units. I've encountered quite a range, from nurses going out of their way to help to those who didn't even speak. I agree with some of the posts that this is not exclusive of nursing, but I must admit that I have felt less than welcome to this field, and I can certainly understand where the saying of "Nurses eating their young" came from. I must also address the fact that many new grads have the attitude that they are a nurse now, and they know it all. Perhaps this is where some of the attitude comes from with the more experienced nurses? I have worked as a nurse extern for the last 6 months; I have worked with a wide range of people, and I have learned one thing: Everyone has something to teach you if you will allow yourself to be open to it. I have a lot to learn and I welcome the guidance and input from those who have chosen nursing as a career. We are the only ones who can change those things that we don't like in our profession. I know I will remember those who have treated me in a negative manner and will do all I can not to ever do the same to another individual regardless of their experience or length of time in the field.

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  #134  
Old Apr 25, 2002, 12:02 AM
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I have went back and forth on this issue. I know I myself try to help new nurses, because I remember what it was like as the newbie But I know that not everybody is like this. And it was proven to me once again tonight. I was at work, working with a fairly new nurse, who i have worked with a few times. She appears to be on top of things; organized, intelligient, efficient, and good to her patients and an overall nice person. She told me stuff that had happened to her and been said about her that was awful. Rumors, people digging in and judging her about her private life. She feels like an outcast. Nobody speaks to her. And I witnessed it tonite. Too many people talking about people behind their back. And my floor wonders why nobody stays there, and other hospital staff would rather clock out and go home than get pulled to our floor. Its rumored that our floor is mean, I didn't believe it, but too many people are saying it.....and tonight I saw it. I just want to tell them to grow up....do your job and leave others personal lives to themselves unless it is affecting their job or they make it your business.

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  #135  
Old Apr 25, 2002, 01:18 AM
Brownms46 (Female)
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Well here is an update to my travel situation..

I went into work expecting to get dumped on again...and prepared to object to being given the first admission again! and guess what??? It didn't happen!

Instead of staff picking an chosing what they wanted me to have...the CN looked around and saw me...and immediately said..."I'm working on the assignments right now"! I got some of the best pts I have had since I have been there..even though I started out with 8 pts...I had time to give my pts a little extra care...open my charts as I saw the pts...and give my meds on time! I actually was able to spend time allowing my pt who was depressed and afraid....to actually talk about his fears. I was able to take MY BREAK...draw all my labs...and ready with a indepth report on my pts...an HOUR before days arrived!! I got to leave ON TIME....YEAAAA!

On the other hand...those who usually were able to sit around all nite...and leave on time...were the ones who ended up running all nite... got the train wreck admission, and were still there doing THEIR nurse's note AFTER I left!

How good it is....to feel in control again! I can only think that either the hospital was afraid I would leave...or somebody recongized themselves on here. Don't care which is was...and not sure if it will last....but at least I know for sure...the problem wasn't one of my not being organized....and proved that if I had a decent assignment I would have NO problems handling it!

Now I'm anxious to go back to work again...and find out what will happen next....???


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  #136  
Old Apr 25, 2002, 12:03 PM
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I don't know why nurse's treat others this way. But we've all seen it. I had worked in a NH for 6 years doing everything from floor to supervisor. But always being an advocate was burning me out-and always feeling at odds with the administration. So I went to school nursing. but continued to work per diem at the facility. One day I came in to find a veteran crabbing and yelling about something that I did wrong- I didn't put transport papers were she liked them so she couldn't find them. well she yelled and crabbed and made me feel like a piece of sh-t. I walked out and the DON pulled me into her office where I had a chance to calm down.When I went back up the crab said to me "I wouldn't have said anything if I had known it was you." that was her apology. And my answer was that I refused to work with her again, and soon left the facility. their loss not mine!!!

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  #137  
Old Apr 25, 2002, 08:16 PM
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what is "nurses eat their young"?

sorry, bad question for topic i don't know about...but i'm new to the forum and nursing...(barely...going to nursing school this fall)

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  #138  
Old Apr 25, 2002, 11:34 PM
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Nurses eat their young was a phrased coined to describe the hell more experienced nurses sometimes unleash on newer nurses. It happens in some places more than others. I have had some of the worst co-workers on the planet, but 90% have been awesome nurses (just telling you so you aren't terrified of all the nurses you'll be working with).

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  #139  
Old Apr 26, 2002, 03:27 AM
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Well something's happening to them young ones, 'cause they're sure not in nursing. Just us old ones left *grin* Don't you all know that?

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  #140  
Old Apr 26, 2002, 10:22 AM
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Yes we do eat them. Not because we want to, only because we never get a chance to get away for real food. Well, ok, the young ones are tender and do taste good with ketchup.

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