[hajer]

for sure there is something else beyond. why do u think we are in this world?just to eat dirnk work.Every one will punsh and rewards for what did he do for entir his live.
there is a live after this live.But where u will be?in haven or hell.

[BlueRidgeHomeRN]

Originally Posted by emsboss

simply fell over with the most horrified look on his face and died(DNR/DNI). When the mortuary came and picked him up he still had that expression on his face. I believe in a peaceful afterlife...BUT...There is also a not peaceful one also...I think...

In years of Hospice, saw this, also (blessedly, only ONCE). This gentleman has no family, few friends, and was pretty p*ssed off at the world and God, not that he believed in the latter.

Same look of horror when he died--and no drugs at all in his system (he refused up to the end). Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up to this day. Don't know where he went, hope to never find out.

BUT--most folks get a look like a five year old who just spotted the decorated Christmas tree and all the presents! Sometimes, after asking why I couldn't see the angels..I always told the pt the angels were there for him/her, and it was fine to go with them.

[KaroSnowQueen]

I have two, both from the early years of my career, when I was working night shift charge in LTC.
The first was a very nice lady. She was obvioiusly dying. Several family members were around her bed. Two of them got into an argument, literally standing over the dying woman, yelling over top of her. I came into the room, and told them all to get out, this woman was dying and she didn't need that crap going on. All the family went out to the dining room. The daughter who had been there nearly continuously came to me in tears wanting to go back in.
I let her come back in. She stood at the mother's bedside and apologized for all the yelling. The patient opened her eyes , reached her right hand upwards toward her left, smiled the most beautiful smile (think of an infertile woman who knows she is having twins is the best comparison I can think of), and very quietly, smilingly died. I have NEVER saw anyone look so happy and sweet as they passed.

Fast forward a few months. Another lady patient. Her DH a pt at the NH also. She has one son, states away. Suffers with frequent bouts of pleurisy and keeps going downhill slowly. Was a very prominent member of the community and church member all her life. The night before she died we had her in a recliner at the nurse's desk because she didn't want to be alone. She would scream out, "OH MY GOD!! THE DEVIL'S COMING FOR ME! HE'S GOING TO TAKE ME!" and did not stop all night. She was doing it when I left that morning, and she died that afternoon. The other nurses said she was screaming it up until the instant she passed.............

[CHATSDALE]

i believe that people do see something as they are in the inbetween of life and death
they did a cpr on my dad and he was angry because they brought him back from 'THAT BEAUTIFUL PLACE' this is what gave my mother the strength to sign the 'no code' and he passed three days later

as for the return of certain capabilities my nursing instructor said that the body will try and save it self and will sometimes pump out epinephrine and then when the effect is over they have a rebound effect and they go down and usually die soon after

[BlueRidgeHomeRN]

Originally Posted by pagandeva2000

You should visit the web site www.iands.org. These people had near death experiences, and at times, they speak about death bed visions. I have not seen any patients experience this, however, I have met numerous people who have had NDEs. A fascinating phenomenon, and I believe in all of them wholeheartedly.

PD-

Thanks for the link--its great, and confirms everything I believe and have witnessed, both personally and professionally over my lifetime.

I'm not even ill (that I know of!) and am a DNR with it all in writing. Not the least bit afraid of dying--TERRIFIED of pain!! TGFM (thank God for Morphine!)

[earle58]

i have seen hundreds of these types experiences.
hundreds.
no one or nothing will ever convince me that there isn't an afterlife.
i do have my philosophies about it and don't necessarily think one goes straight to 'Heaven'.
i think there are levels of growth ea of us has to attain before going straight to the top.
and so, i believe there are levels of afterlife.
for those who have attained these 'passages' here on earth, they will go to a higher level when they die.
for those who were shallow and selfish, there's much more growing to be done and will have to experience more realms than the selfless, Godly person on earth.
but still, there awaits glorious opportunities for salvation.
and our chances to prosper, await us in some form of life/energy and love.

leslie

[ingelein]

Leslie, I think you are on to a fundamental TRUTH.

[BlueRidgeHomeRN]

Originally Posted by earle58

there awaits glorious opportunities for salvation.

Yup, you can learn your lessons now, or learn them later.

But, if you choose to turn your back on all lessons life presents, you may find yourself unable to learn at all.

[hypocaffeinemia]

I believe in the power of the human brain's ability to placate the dying patient by releasing a rush of neurotransmitters and endorphins as it dies, resulting in powerful and occasionally disturbing auditory and visual hallucinations in their last moments.

These such hallucinations and emotions along with the patient's and families expectations of creed-dependent afterlives often bring comfort and joy to all involved, and should not be discounted or denied.

But that doesn't mean I have to believe they are supernatural in origin.

[BlueRidgeHomeRN]

Originally Posted by methylene

But that doesn't mean I have to believe they are supernatural in origin.

Of course, you don't have to believe anything at all.

However, you might want to be open to the possibility that there is more than an endorphin rush to all this.....

Some of us who have spent a long time on this planet have seen and experienced things we can't begin to put into words.

Keep an open mind--life is chock full of surprises!