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Old Oct 02, 2001, 01:39 PM
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I AM A NEW NURSING GRADUATE AND I RECENTLY CAME UPON MY FIRST DEATH OF ONE OF MY PATIENTS. I FELT HORRIBLE EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T PREVENTABLE AND THERE WAS NOTHING ANYONE COULD HAVE DONE. DO NURSES GRADUALLY BECOME IMMUNE TO THINGS LIKE THIS? WILL I ALWAYS FEEL THIS BAD WHEN PATIENTS DIE ON ME?

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Old Oct 02, 2001, 10:37 PM
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it's not something you get used to...but eventually, you'll learn how to cope with such an experience

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Old Oct 02, 2001, 10:49 PM
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Lightbulb Hopefully never immune

The joys and sadness associated with nursing are just that Joy and Sadness. Sometimes we laugh with out patients and sometimes we cry with them, we share a part of their lives and that is what is so special about nursing.

It is when you become immune to these feelings that it is time to choose a new field.

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Old Oct 02, 2001, 11:25 PM
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I used to work on a hematology/oncology unit . . . for about 7 1/2 years. During that time, I've seen a lot of people take their last breaths. My goal, during those times, was to make sure that the patient was comfortable and pain-free, and that the patient and family had lots of time together to say "Good-bye". I'm still at awe whenever I witness someone die. For me, it's a heart-ache and a privilege at that same time. It's a heart-ache because of the tremendous loss the family feels. It's a privilege because I'm part of a person's "last moments" on this earth. . . many times I was the last person the person heard or felt the touch of a caring hand.

The hematology/oncology unit had a wonderful memorial program four times a year for all patients, that we cared for, who died (either on the unit or at home). It was an ecumenical service with prayer and song (being a piano player, I usually played the music). It was a very nice way for the family and staff to grieve and heal together.

I don't think I'll ever get used to death. I love being a source of support for someone who's "fighting for their life" . . . especially as an ICU/CCU nurse, now, I enjoy the feeling of "saving lives", watching them recover and go home.

However, when the person has done all that they could do to "fight the good fight" and come to the realization and acceptance that death is their only choice (as is the case for many end-stage cancer patients), I do all that I can do to ensure that their last days on earth are comfortable, dignified, and filled with the love of their family and friends.

It's when a person hasn't even had the opportunity to "fight the good fight" AND they find out that there's absolutely nothing that can be done which bugs the crap out of me. . . usually they're young with children, etc. Man, does this instance break my heart. I respect their wish to have "everything done" for them (full code, etc.). Even when it's obvious that they will not survive the code, at least they died knowing that the nurses and doctors did everything to help them live (as futile as it may be). This may sound strange, but I believe that knowing and trusting that their care-givers did everything they could to save their lives (as in a code situation) might bring them a peace of mind/spirit during their final moments on earth.

I would much rather help a person "fight the good fight" than play the role of a hospice nurse right now in my career. I still have some death issues to work out.

Don't keep things bottled up, though, whenever a patient of yours dies. In my book, it's o.k. to share the grief . . . it's o.k. to talk amongst your colleagues, go to memorial services . . . do whatever needs to be done to heal your heart.

Ted Fiebke


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Old Oct 02, 2001, 11:30 PM
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Ted, Thank you for the post. It is very sincere and moving. Excellent education for me.

Christina

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Old Oct 03, 2001, 12:16 AM
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Debbyed's right..

I believe that one of the privileges of being a nurse is to be present at significant events in the life of both an individual and a family. One of the aspects of this privilege is to validate the individual and the family.

This takes time and experience--and reflection. You might start a journal about the experience you've just been through. If you can talk to your own family and friends about it, great, but they may or may NOT be receptive. That's why I'm suggesting a journal. Doesn't have to be only about patients who've died, maybe you'll have another experience with a pt. you might want to record and think about.

Good luck and God Bless!!

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Old Oct 03, 2001, 12:25 AM
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Such beautiful and wonderful responses. Thank you all.

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Old Oct 03, 2001, 07:44 AM
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No, I never want to get used to it! In the same way; I still cry when a new human being gets into this world and I am there, to assist.

I don't know whether in your educationsystem, there is place for "dyingseminars"
we do those with our students, the 1 one takes 3 days at the end of the first year, the 2 takes 2 days at the end of the second year.

Here we try to make our students feel not useless and hopeless, having a bad conscience about the dying patient. And also how to deal with the families.

But the first thing we do, is selfexperiences- well, diificult of course, but the important thing there is, to really think about ones own death, how would you want to die, how not, why, why not. Very heavy stuff!
That's the reason there are always 2 trained educators in the room.
I held about 5 of these seminars and they were absolutely great! For allof us!

Take care and vever forget: first of all you are a human being!!
Renee

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Old Oct 03, 2001, 08:01 AM
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Culturally our society views death in a final way. There are many cultures that view life as a mere stepping stone to the treasures on the other side. If you have difficulty with the concept of death maybe you will want to do some reading about other cultures and the death experience. It has always been an honor for me to be present when a patient transitions from this life to another. It has always been an honor to feel the emotions with the families and loved ones. Look inside and see what troubles you about the death experience and grow from there. You can experience true compassion sharing this experience with your patients and their loved ones.

my best
chas

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Old Oct 03, 2001, 08:26 AM
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Much depends on the circumstances surrounding the death. I had a couple of instances while working in long term care where patients who had been doing fairly well just suddenly crashed and we just couldn't save them. Those were very difficult.

In other instances, where the patient has been sick for a long time and everyone is prepared, then the actual death sometimes comes as almost a welcome thing, both by the patient and by the family, particularly if they have a strong faith and believe that they are now in a better place with no suffering and with their loved ones. They have made their peace, grieved over and accepted the idea, and the actual moment of passing becomes a very spiritual time...a completion of the circle of life. Still sad, yes, but mixed with a feeling of awe.

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