[Tweety]

Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes

so wrong, particularly in nursing. Who gets what he or she wants if they are always "nice"? It's gotten nursing exactly NO WHERE for years. Better to say

"nice guys often finish last" if you ask me, particularly in nursing.

Deb, I couldn't agree with you more.

However, I would add there is a way to be assertive without being mean or witchy. I think one can be "nice" while speaking their mind, stating what they need, and what they will and will not accept.

Also, I think it's possible to express yourself without taking things out of context, without taking one particular quote or statistic and twisting the words around it to fit into your way of thinking. That's not nice.

For me, nice guys don't finish last, they come out on top!

[Tweety]

Weetzie the Code of Ethics being revised by the ANA is available online. http://nursingworld.org/ethics/ecode.htm

They seem to be very fussy about copywrite, so it's difficult to post the actually addy but there are links.

It's actually something I can agree with for the most part, but am not going to swear an oath to.

Perhaps the part about respect for human dignity is what they take exception to about nurses who partake in capital punishment.

I'm not a member of the ANA, but have planned on it because, like it or not, they are the voice of American nurses on many levels, particularly on the national stage. They have many accomplishments.

This article does disappoint me, as it's very judgemental. How can an organization that whose goal it is to advance nursing and represent nursing get anyway by attacking other nurses and judging them.

[weetziebat]

Originally Posted by 3rdShiftGuy

Weetzie the Code of Ethics being revised by the ANA is available online. http://nursingworld.org/ethics/ecode.htm

They seem to be very fussy about copywrite, so it's difficult to post the actually addy but there are links.

It's actually something I can agree with for the most part, but am not going to swear an oath to.

Perhaps the part about respect for human dignity is what they take exception to about nurses who partake in capital punishment.

I'm not a member of the ANA, but have planned on it because, like it or not, they are the voice of American nurses on many levels, particularly on the national stage. They have many accomplishments.

This article does disappoint me, as it's very judgemental. How can an organization that whose goal it is to advance nursing and represent nursing get anyway by attacking other nurses and judging them.

Thanks Tweets. Sheesh, it's looooong!

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by begalli

Also according to my 16 year old son who was shot down by his first real crush this week when he asked her if she'd like to hang out and walk our dog.

Poor guy.

Sorry so off topic. In the words of the famous Tim Gunn..."Carry On."

Begalli -

My 22 year old has a crush on a girl . . . . she has decided to give up men for lent . .. .she had her heart broken. My son and this girl hang together in a group of friends though, so who knows?

steph

[been there]

Originally Posted by actioncat

There was a mention of the lethal injection discussion in AJN. It was kind of an embarrassment; they discussed a posting where a few individuals expressed a great desire to take part in lethal injections. Too bad.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting article. Shame, shame that AJN couldn't find any other comments on allnurses. It doesn't "fit" logically in the flow of the article and reads, to me, as if this was a direct hit on nurses in general being indifferent about death. There is no reason I can think of as to why AJN has done this. I thought AJN was for nurses but I seem to be wrong. I no longer subscribe to AJN. SHAME - SHAME - SHAME ON AJN.

[mattsmom81]

Originally Posted by Tweety

This article does disappoint me, as it's very judgemental. How can an organization that whose goal it is to advance nursing and represent nursing get anyway by attacking other nurses and judging them.

To me this embodies the #1 problem with nursing (and their self appointed organizations who are just as dysfunctional) Divisiveness and competition win over solidarity.

[sleepless in norman]

In the state of oklahoma, the particitpation of the nurse in both preparation and injection of the unfortunate human being to be put to death, is well documented and talked about within the state medical community, these people are proud to be apart of their so called hand in the cessation of a human life, one so deemed not worthy of life by the oklahoma society, a society so engorged with corruption that thousands of companys are pulling out of, a society where the states attny. general englufes his time with lawsuits of other states and of this nations most successfull companies, " Come To Oklahoma On Vacation, Leave On Probation."

[erdave]

Sure it is legal...we have the freedom to express our desires and opinions in here and they also have the right to voice thiers.

"[quote=ktwlpn]Interesting-did you report this to Brian? I wonder if it is legal for them to reproduce threads from this forum..."

Remember we are responsible for what we write and say….I haven’t read an AJN in years and if you glance back at my previous posts…..I am very frustrated and at times angry with the nursing establishment period. My degree in May will be in Philo. and History and then on to Law School. This forum does allow us the chance to vent and share experiences of both good and bad. I have used this forum as a learning tool as I still work weekends as a nurse. When rhetoric is written, it is a recorded record. I would hope the author would quote the source to his/her intended audiences.

I strongly believe we all have the right to our beliefs and after 25 years in the ER, I have met all and every combination of folks you can meet and I respect everyone’s belief…..but that does not mean they have to respect mine or ours.

I am unsure of the substance of the article and hence the debate and I have enough issues on my plate now……………but the purpose of this exposition is simply to let you know….writing about passionate issues is fine …just never ask a question that you don’t know the answer…I have gotten in trouble for writing about my beliefs on the death penalty with kids under 18 and this was professional writing and this almost cost me law school…I am proud of your opinions just be responsible…..enjoy your day
dave

[steelcityrn]

I sure hope the folks at AJN don't get a hold of this disgusting post on here "Acronyms in the E.D". Its another terrible post with messages from nurses laughing at people suffering.

[LPNer]

I am pro death penalty and yes, I would start the IV. I would even give the lethal injection which is against the law for me (LPN)... the law has defined the time and manner in which the inmate is to die, I would simply be making it as comfortable as possible for him/her. This is being a very good nurse.

The article? I agree with everybody else, she was groping for a story. Sloppy, cheap and down right dirty.