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Old Mar 04, 2005, 07:44 PM
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This does raise a point or two:

Moderators: I looked through the ToS and didn't see anything that talked specifically about quoting or use of posted content by media. Is there one? Should there be one?

Nurses: personal opinions about the death penalty aside (and *please* do leave them aside for now) if there's a Code of Ethics that says that nurses shouldn't participate in such things, then would you a) subscribe to that Code or b) willfully ignore it?

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 07:48 PM
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As far as I know, the ANA code of ethics is not a required document for nurses to follow since we are not required to be members of ANA (and in fact the vast majority of nurses are not members). Don't state BONs have the role of determining what nurses should and should not do?

I'm against the death penalty, but if nurses have been participating in it for years without reprisal, that would seem to indicate that state BONs do not have a problem with it. The ANA is something I really consider irrelevant in general. I just don't see how they affect me or my practice.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisA
This does raise a point or two:

Moderators: I looked through the ToS and didn't see anything that talked specifically about quoting or use of posted content by media. Is there one? Should there be one?

Nurses: personal opinions about the death penalty aside (and *please* do leave them aside for now) if there's a Code of Ethics that says that nurses shouldn't participate in such things, then would you a) subscribe to that Code or b) willfully ignore it?
If I swore an oath to follow a code of ethics, I would certainly do so. The bigger question is whether we are bound to follow a code of ethics if we haven't vowed to do so in the first place, isn't it?

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mercyteapot
If I swore an oath to follow a code of ethics, I would certainly do so. The bigger question is whether we are bound to follow a code of ethics if we haven't vowed to do so in the first place, isn't it?
I suppose so. In general, it seems odd to me that there isn't a more powerful national representative body in nursing. It's exactly the sort of field that needs it. Oh well, another thing for me to learn.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisA
Nurses: personal opinions about the death penalty aside (and *please* do leave them aside for now) if there's a Code of Ethics that says that nurses shouldn't participate in such things, then would you a) subscribe to that Code or b) willfully ignore it?
I couldn't take a job involving killing someone, however heinous their crime may have been.

So as long as the Code supported my personal beliefs, I could do it.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fergus51
As far as I know, the ANA code of ethics is not a required document for nurses to follow since we are not required to be members of ANA (and in fact the vast majority of nurses are not members). Don't state BONs have the role of determining what nurses should and should not do?

I'm against the death penalty, but if nurses have been participating in it for years without reprisal, that would seem to indicate that state BONs do not have a problem with it. The ANA is something I really consider irrelevant in general. I just don't see how they affect me or my practice.
I've been in nursing forever, and really don't see what my personal beliefs have to do with my job. Perhaps I am not understanding what is being said here - is it actually being said that in order to be a nurse, one must follow certain beliefs? I have never belonged to the ANA and would totally refuse to belong to something that told me what to believe in. I'd appreciate some clarification of this folks.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 08:31 PM
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Its just like mom used to say.......If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything!

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 09:22 PM
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On the other hand, what is "nice" is completely subjective and what may be taken at face value by one person may be an affront to another. So should we all stop posting?

/stops to ponder

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Old Mar 05, 2005, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by steelcityrn
Its just like mom used to say.......If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything!
so wrong, particularly in nursing. Who gets what he or she wants if they are always "nice"? It's gotten nursing exactly NO WHERE for years. Better to say

"nice guys often finish last" if you ask me, particularly in nursing.

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Old Mar 05, 2005, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes

"nice guys often finish last" if you ask me, particularly in nursing.
Also according to my 16 year old son who was shot down by his first real crush this week when he asked her if she'd like to hang out and walk our dog.

Poor guy.

Sorry so off topic. In the words of the famous Tim Gunn..."Carry On."


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