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Old Mar 04, 2005, 02:22 AM
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Ahh, sorry, someone else already did. lol

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 02:32 AM
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Talk about yellow journalism! In some senses an Internet BB is no more reliable than a bunch of strangers yakking in a bar. Many of us have met others from this board or had private conversations, but many others stay largely anoynomous. Personally, I've never had the sense that anyone on one of my threads wasn't involved in nursing, but it isn't hard to imagine that we may have trolls among us. Most BBs do. How can Maureen Shawn Kennedy and AJN put aside the fact that they have absolutely no idea who made the comments in question and include such a conversation in their rag?

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KPrice
I haven't said anything in any of my posts that I wouldn't say anywhere else - to an AJN interviewer, for that matter. But I do think that for AJN to appropriate a discussion off of an informal Internet forum is bad journalism at best and outright fraud at worst., especially since it's obvious that the journal edited the thread content to suit itself. I don't currently subscribe to AJN, but you can bet I'll never do so again, either.
I agree. The "credentials" of those who responded to that thread are completely lacking. Nor did it sound like a very serious nursing discussion to me, more like a venting discussion. (Similar to the "Who would you Taser?" thread.)

AJN should not have allowed this casually-spoken, flip thread to be used in a serious discussion about lethal injection, that's all there is to it.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 09:01 AM
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Well it is a good reminder for people to always remember that the internet is public territory and things can and will be copied and used for whatever purposes someone deems fitting...So one must always be aware ...

Personally, I feel that nurses have as much right to anyone else to post their opinions about any issue they feel like talking about. I am quite sure a nursing forum isn't the only one to discuss serious issues like this...ethical cases that really open eyes and gets you thinking about how you, yourself, truely think about things! I am sure other forums have discussed this, heck I know it because I was on a news forum that discussed this a year or so ago...

Never be ashamed of your own thoughts, feelings...just be leary of where you display them...they can and will be used someway somehow..and for this case...heck, at least we know where and when...many times we will never know!

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 09:34 AM
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Just to let you know that ANA sold AJN about 5 years ago.

From ANA's website:http://nursingworld.org/ajn/


The American Journal of Nursing, the official journal of the American Nurses Association, is owned and published monthly by Lippincott, Williams, and Wilkins, Philadelphia, PA.

While ANA does directly publish some columns in the journal, it does not have editorial control over the overall content of the journal. ANA currently publishes the following columns in the journal: "Politics of Caring," "Issues Update," and "Health & Safety."

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Correction:

Author of article is Dalia Sofer.
News Director is Maureen Kennedy.

Need glasses to see that lighter italic print.


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Old Mar 04, 2005, 09:36 AM
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[quote=ktwlpn]Interesting-did you report this to Brian? I wonder if it is legal for them to reproduce threads from this forum.
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I am sure it is.

I post on a Lyme disease forum and we have had our threads also published.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 10:16 AM
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Poor journalism? Of course! Smacks of the CBS/Dan Rather brou-ha-ha a few months ago...(please, no political tangents!)

I am for the death penalty. I don't believe it makes me less of a nurse. I have read and re-read the ANA statement on nurses participating in executions and I'm wondering...

Would a nurse be in violation of ANA ethics if they were part of a jury that convicted and sentenced a felon?

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 12:28 PM
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Why would it be illegal of them to reproduce something from a web bulletin board?

I don't know how I feel about the death penalty. I am not certain I like the idea of government sanctioning murder. At the same time, I feel like who am I to judge someone who has had a family member or close friend murdered and wants the murderer to be put to death. I am not in their shoes. I imagine a desire for vengeance would be quite powerful.

Still, there is a difference between being pro death penalty and becoming gleeful at the prospect of taking part in an execution. If you think this is doing good for society, there are probably thousands better ways to do good in our society. (Perhaps fostering a child that lacks adult role models and is heading towards a life of crime!)


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Old Mar 04, 2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by actioncat
Still, there is a difference between being pro death penalty and becoming gleeful at the prospect of taking part in an execution.
I objected to the use of that thread in a serious article because I thought the entire thread was done in jest.

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Old Mar 04, 2005, 01:13 PM
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Hi everyone, thanks for posting this, I was not aware that allnurses.com was mentioned in the article.

allnurses.com has been mentioned in several articles, a CNN artlicle on the nursing shortage, RN magazine called allnurses.com a supersite, been a handful of others nursing/medical publications, and now AJN. It says a lot to have companies like these using allnurses.com as a source for their content, regardless of how flattering the content is or isn't, or if is taken out of context or not.

It just goes to show how much of an impact this site has on the nursing sector. We're being watched

Thanks to all


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