[jlsRN]

Myt colleague had a patient that had med list that was a mile long, all naturopathic medicines. He didn't look like a healthy eater or anything, he looked like a typical (overweight) American. His wife has a neurotic affect, and started crying at the nurses station about everything and how they were paying $2000 a month on these naturopathic medicines. She was obviously the one in charge of the health regimens in the family. The patient had pancriatitis, and some other problems, he wasn't my patient so I don't know the details.

Now, I'm very open to holistic lifestyles and all. I try to avoid medical interventions myself through healthy choices. But $2000 amonth?

[indigo girl]

While these can be helpful, $2000 month does seem, well, rather excessive...

I have a naturopathic doc, who is also an MD. I am sure that he would
be appalled.

Sometimes folks do self medicate, and select all kinds of things that
a healthcare provider might not prescribe for them.

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

Originally Posted by jlsRN

Now, I'm very open to holistic lifestyles and all. I try to avoid medical interventions myself through healthy choices. But $2000 amonth?

A few years back, I had a patient who would bring in a large suitcase filled with this stuff on every admission. I have no idea what he spent on all of that, but $2000 probably would have been a conservative estimate.

[Dolce]

Originally Posted by jlsRN

The patient had pancriatitis, and some other problems, he wasn't my patient so I don't know the details.

Wonder what caused that. Hmm, maybe 57 different kinds of herbs and potions?

[Jolie]

Originally Posted by jlsRN

But $2000 amonth?

And people accuse the pharmaceutical industry of taking advantage of consumers!

[jlsRN]

Originally Posted by Dolce

Wonder what caused that. Hmm, maybe 57 different kinds of herbs and potions?

Yes, we were wondering if all the herbals and conncoctions caused the problem. He had gallstones as well.

[morte]

actually the gallstones may have caused the pancreatitis....i wonder if she was accessing this stuff on line, wthout a doc? dont know if that is possible, but if so, maybe she needs a referral to an honest, local nauturopath....

[James Huffman]

Originally Posted by jlsRN

Myt colleague had a patient that had med list that was a mile long, all naturopathic medicines. He didn't look like a healthy eater or anything, he looked like a typical (overweight) American. His wife has a neurotic affect, and started crying at the nurses station about everything and how they were paying $2000 a month on these naturopathic medicines.

Just wondering: is it possible that this woman was exaggerating? After all, you did mention the "neurotic affect."

I'm with some of the other posters: the number sounds extreme. Not impossible, but I wonder if we might want to take her reporting with a grain of salt.

[jlsRN]

Originally Posted by James Huffman

Just wondering: is it possible that this woman was exaggerating? After all, you did mention the "neurotic affect."

I'm with some of the other posters: the number sounds extreme. Not impossible, but I wonder if we might want to take her reporting with a grain of salt.

I saw the med list, it was very, very extensive and exotic. We believed her. Our assumption was that she had been suckered in by an unscrupulous quack.

[time4meRN]

I have a friend who is an MA in a homeopathic med dr's office. He too is an MD. The things she told me about working there are amazing. I think that this type of medicine has it's place, heaven knows conventional medicine has ways of making well people ill, but, my gosh , injecting someones urine back into them was going a little too far. Of course all of his pt's were self pay because no insurance co. would ever go out on a limb to say these pratices are exceptable. She told me that this Dr. is hiring RN's and pays well. I had to decline, didn't want to risk my liscensure with experimental procedures. Sound like a law suit waiting to happen if you ask me.She was always doing weird tests on blood, looking for trace elements, then starting IV's , giving IV fluids, enama etc to rid the pt of these awful element. Now , remember , she's an MA, not and RN. Some of the people she told me she gave entire bags of fluid to were little old ladies and teens. Then there was the iodine test. The Dr. put a spot of iodine on her arm. When the iodine did somthing (god knows what), it ment that she was lacking estrogen and perhaps " a thyroid" problem. Well DUHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!! She's in her 40's, having mood swings , gaining weight, tiered all the time....... sounds like menapause to me,,,,,,,too bad she payed good money for such insight. So he ordered some over the counter med to help. Heck the guy at the Wendy's drive through could have told her she was in menapause, and saved her money.