[RNPICU]

Thank you Suemsu for your response. A second Bachelor's degree means that prior to my BSN, I had already received a Bachelor's degree in some other field besides nursing. In my case, it was English and Art. The nursing program then uses your existing degree and supplements it with the core nursing courses (essentially the junior and senior years of a 4-year nursing degree), to then be able to award you with a BSN in an accelerated amount of time. Many universities throughout the US have these programs in addition to their traditional 4 year and RN-to-BSN programs. I attended the University of Mass at Amherst. Granted it is not as simple as deciding one day to be a RN and apply to the program. To be able to apply to the program, you need to have completed 7 prerequisites (some in my program had already done one or two in their first degree...I was lucky enough to need all 7!) and I also had to do the GRE.

While Second Bachelor's degrees are accepted in this country, it is my understanding (mainly from reading this forum), that other countries do not recognize this degree - it has to do with the number of hours of training. The woman from Continental did not seem concerned about this fact at all. I just don't want to start the process (ie spend a lot of money) if there is not a chance that I would be able to practice in the UK as a RN. I just thought since the process is quite long, I would try to get things going, even if I didn't use my license right away.

I don't think that I could apply as a European. My marriage does not automatically grant me UK or EU provisions. My understanding is that I would need to live in the UK for 6 months in order to ask for UK citizenship. Does anyone have any other info?

[Silverdragon102]

Originally Posted by RNPICU

Thank you Suemsu for your response. A second Bachelor's degree means that prior to my BSN, I had already received a Bachelor's degree in some other field besides nursing. In my case, it was English and Art. The nursing program then uses your existing degree and supplements it with the core nursing courses (essentially the junior and senior years of a 4-year nursing degree), to then be able to award you with a BSN in an accelerated amount of time. Many universities throughout the US have these programs in addition to their traditional 4 year and RN-to-BSN programs. I attended the University of Mass at Amherst. Granted it is not as simple as deciding one day to be a RN and apply to the program. To be able to apply to the program, you need to have completed 7 prerequisites (some in my program had already done one or two in their first degree...I was lucky enough to need all 7!) and I also had to do the GRE.

While Second Bachelor's degrees are accepted in this country, it is my understanding (mainly from reading this forum), that other countries do not recognize this degree - it has to do with the number of hours of training. The woman from Continental did not seem concerned about this fact at all. I just don't want to start the process (ie spend a lot of money) if there is not a chance that I would be able to practice in the UK as a RN. I just thought since the process is quite long, I would try to get things going, even if I didn't use my license right away.

I don't think that I could apply as a European. My marriage does not automatically grant me UK or EU provisions. My understanding is that I would need to live in the UK for 6 months in order to ask for UK citizenship. Does anyone have any other info?

Welcome to the site

Slightly wrong information has been given, because you trained overseas you still have to meet overseas requirements for the NMC. It is all worked out on hours so the best way to see if you meet requirements is to submit your transcripts and go through the process and let them make the decision, if you need hours you may be able to make them hours up whilst still in the US. What makes it easier for you is marriage to a Brit but you will need to apply for a settlement visa before returning to the UK. There is a website for US to UK spouse will see if I can find it

Check out the UK forum, plenty of info and website to visit

[suemsu]

Let me quote what the NMC wrote ' if you are a nurse or midwife and you have trained in a country out side the European Union, but are applying for registration though the EU route by virtue of your marriage to an EU citizen or via your own status as a EU citizen, you are required to submit a copy of your transcript of training along with the enclosed application forms'
I agree that you still have to meet the required hours but it is still a lot simpler going through the EU route, and does not cost so much. I am a British citizen but trained outside the EU and my application is going through the EU route. I have spoke to the board many times concerning this matter.

[suemsu]

I don't think that going though the EU route has any thing to do with being a british citizen, you just want a RN license

[Silverdragon102]

Originally Posted by suemsu

I don't think that going though the EU route has any thing to do with being a british citizen, you just want a RN license

Getting a work permit is easier because you are married to a British citizen. Getting a work permit otherwise is virtually impossible at the moment with a lot of work permits for foreign nurses not being renewed and work permit allows 4 years work but can't claim leave of stay unless here 5 years so they have to go home.

Could you please provide the link to the quote you have given from the NMC as I have looked on their website and can't find anything.

[suemsu]

Sorry that you could not find the quote, but I assure you it is true. The quote is in the standard letter that they send out with the applications forms when you are applying through the EU section, and again I have spoken to the board making sure that I understood the process completely prior to sending my application forms as it can take up to 3 months for them to decide if they will grant the license. I also thought that I would be classed as a overseas applicant , but the NMC clarified that I could go through the EU section, reasons being as I mentioned in the quote.

[Silverdragon102]

Originally Posted by suemsu

Sorry that you could not find the quote, but I assure you it is true. The quote is in the standard letter that they send out with the applications forms when you are applying through the EU section, and again I have spoken to the board making sure that I understood the process completely prior to sending my application forms as it can take up to 3 months for them to decide if they will grant the license. I also thought that I would be classed as a overseas applicant , but the NMC clarified that I could go through the EU section, reasons being as I mentioned in the quote.

Would be nice if they could quote it on their overseas site for the ones who are married to an UK/EU citizen not just in a letter. Doubt it will help but I may send them an email to consider it as I bet a lot of overseas nurses look at it

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by RNPICU

This is my first time posting on this forum, but I've spent many hours reading the postings. I know this question has been posed before and I have spent many hours reading through the posts, but I just need some clarification, if possible.

I am a RN with one year of experience working in the PICU. I received my BSN from a Second Bachelor's program in May 2006. I have been married to a Brit for the last 13 years. We have no immediate plans on moving to the UK, but talk about it now and again. I think at some point in the next 5 years or so, we might try to move there. I know that the NHS has lots of problems at the moment. We travel to the UK every year for visits, so read the papers, and his family keep me up to date on things. I also have read that the NMC will not accept a Second Bachelor's degree in nursing. I recently contacted Continental Travel Nursing, who told me that my Second Bachelor's degree would not be an issue at all and that I wouldn't have any problems finding work through them. Is this true? I specifically asked the woman at the agency several times if my degree would be an issue with the NMC, and was told no. Does anyone have any info they can share with me about this agency or going through the NMC procedure with a Second Bachelor's degree?
Thanks so much.

You are speaking of an accelerated program, am I not correct? And if so, this is what you will have issues with in getting licensed in the UK. They care about the specific amount of hours spent in training in an actual nursing program. The accelerated programs do not meet the requirements in many foreign countries.

Accelerated programs are usually completed in less than two years and this is where the problem comes in. The UK requires that you have been enrolled in an approved school of nursing for three years, not just the fact that you have the BSN. There are already several threads on this very topic, because of these concerns.

The programs in the US meet the requirements for the US, but do not necessarily meet them for other countries. Get the word from the actualy NMC, do not rely on what an agency is telling you. The recruiters overseas are not always aware of the differences in the various BSNs that we have, but the NMC is.

[Seank]

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[sweetlilwolf]

i just have a question about this. i'm going to nursing school in WI.

to work overseas i would have to to get there license correct? unless i worked for the US Embassy or a military base because those are considered us correct?