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Old Jul 20, 2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

Originally Posted by mitcornsus View Post
Sorry to point it out, but the exact country you are in, Canada, gives priority (extra points), to the foreign students for immigration purposes. If one study in Canada for two years, he/she get five more points, etc. Quebec has similar immigration policies.

Sorry to say, but the immigration system in US do give international students a lot of advantages (kind of priority) though. Educated in US, have a-year OPT which helps them gain US experience. An obvious example is when immigration visa becomes available, like last JULY visa bulletin chaos, they can file AOS immediately, which gives them advantage of renewable EAD.
The UK does not give priority to you if you are a foreign trained nurse. Each country has their own requirements and Canada has a big drive to bring in professional workers and will assist them but if you are just looking for permanent residency without any qualifications then you can be looking at several years. The US does not have a visa unless you can meet a certain criteria so if you say for instance do your LPN in the US it will not meet immigration requirements to stay in the US.

Also there is no guarantee doing the AOS that you will be accepted and after the fiasco last July 07 I doubt AOS will re appear for many years

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

http://include.nurse.com/apps/pbcs.d...40032/-1/front

Nursing magazines and publtications are looking for solutions such as retention of current staff and more money for faculty members. I only saw one lone paragraph about this bill. I don't think it has any traction and won't pass.

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

Originally Posted by mitcornsus View Post
Sorry to point it out, but the exact country you are in, Canada, gives priority (extra points), to the foreign students for immigration purposes. If one study in Canada for two years, he/she get five more points, etc. Quebec has similar immigration policies.

Sorry to say, but the immigration system in US do give international students a lot of advantages (kind of priority) though. Educated in US, have a-year OPT which helps them gain US experience. An obvious example is when immigration visa becomes available, like last JULY visa bulletin chaos, they can file AOS immediately, which gives them advantage of renewable EAD.

Actually students no longer get priority and this has been for two years since the retrogression started and there is no reason for anyone that trained here to be able to get it.

There should have never even been the open window last summer as it was, there were no visas available then. And if you take the time to do the math, you will see that it will be more than five years for all of those from last summer to be able to get a visa, or even have a chance at one. So anyone that is contemplating nursing school here based on that assumption, really needs to think again.

Next issue and one that you are not seeing is the fact that if the new graduate was petitioned last summer, they needed to have taken and passed the NCLEX exam, had a letter from their BON that takes about three to four weeks to get, plus have other requirenments met. Most from last summer did not have this completed and that is why you are seeing so many post that were not even able to get jobs with the OPT in the first place as they would not be able to remain in the US when they were done.

If you are not an American and pay taxes here, then it is really not up to you as to how things should be done here. No one dictates what your country should do.

And there are no other exceptions made to any of the requirements for the student that trained in the US, only thing that gets waived is the English exams.

And looking at it from the other side, if you were the US government; would you prefer a nurse from another country with a solid ten years of work experience behind them or a new grad that just graduated and has no experience behind them? Same thing as an employer?

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 08:24 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

Obviously this is an advocacy thread and not really a discussion thread.

It would not be right to hi-jack the thread from the purpose it was meant for, so it would be best if everyone sticks with the topic or purpose of the thread. There have been many threads that has been created for discussion purposes, including one in the Activism forum where some topics may be more appropriate to be posted instead of posting it in the International forum where foreign nurses use as their medium for support.

Thank you for understanding.

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Old Aug 01, 2008, 11:33 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

Originally Posted by suzanne4 View Post
...if you were the US government; would you prefer a nurse from another country with a solid ten years of work experience behind them or a new grad that just graduated and has no experience behind them?
If I were the US government I would choose the path that would help to lower the presently rising rate of unemployment among the citizens and legal residents -- I would seek to retrain people leaving other industries and provide incentives to hospitals to hire them.

I absolutely would not be inviting new residents to come take jobs in a growth industry.

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Old Aug 01, 2008, 11:34 PM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

Originally Posted by lawrence01 View Post
Obviously this is an advocacy thread and not really a discussion thread.

It would not be right to hi-jack the thread from the purpose it was meant for, so it would be best if everyone sticks with the topic or purpose of the thread. There have been many threads that has been created for discussion purposes, including one in the Activism forum where some topics may be more appropriate to be posted instead of posting it in the International forum where foreign nurses use as their medium for support.

Thank you for understanding.
OK...

I advocate contacting our elected representatives and asking them to enact legislation that seeks to solve whatever shortage might exist by employing people that are already legally entitled to work in the US.

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Old Aug 02, 2008, 12:03 AM
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Re: Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing Shortage

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Everyone is welcome to give their opinions but there is a place for everything. There have been a few reports lately of threads in the International forum and their sub-forums that some threads are being hi-jacked from their original purpose.

It would be best to make your own threads from scratch and post on appropriate forums such as an activisim/healthcare politics forum w/c we have at allnurses.com.


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