[Yorkielover]

See these links what do you all think?

http://hammondlawgroup.blogspot.com/

http://www.shusterman.com/

Does anyone know what the primary benificiary quota is all about?

[suzanne4]

This is just a bill that was submitted, far from being approved.
It just means that there would be 20,000 extra visas per year, but those still include dependents so will not make much a dent in the amount that are waiting.

There are now more than 950,000 currently enrolled in school in your country, and no jobs there. And still only 10,000 per year of green cards that are issued here, so the wait and chance to get a visa is not going to be changing in anyone's favor. Just not going to happen at all.

Unless one is at the end of the process, chance of getting a visa is going to be far from now.

[Turtle08]

So what you are saying is you would need to be in the usa on another valid visa say student visa so you could do an adjustment in status, have passed nclex and have your visa screen in hand in order to have any chance of these visas helping you?

[Silverdragon102]

you can only go the AOS route if visas are current

[Turtle08]

I thought from what I read that it meant unlimited visas for nurses and the 20,00 limit was for their dependants?


1. Lifting of retrogression for Schedule A workers. Any immigrant visa quotas or caps are waived for all visa applications filed for Shortage Occupations (Schedule A occupations: Physical Therapists and Registered Nurses), provided that the I-140 is filed prior to September 30, 2011.

2. 20,000 primary beneficiary quota. While there is no retrogression for Schedule A cases filed before September 30, 2011, Consulates may not approve more than 20,000 primary beneficiary visas in any one year. There is no quota for the immediate family members of such beneficiaries.

[dave787]

well lets just pray im sure it will be resolve soon lets not be negative even if it is just a bill.

[elkpark]

Do you all have any idea how many new "laws" get proposed each year in the US Congress but never get passed? I wouldn't waste any time even thinking about this (or any other proposal, whether it's about immigration or anything else) until it passes. There's no point in getting your hopes up that something's going to change just because the proposal has been made -- it's a long, difficult journey from a bill being submitted to it being signed into law (and most bills that get submitted never make it).

Just trying to be realistic ...

[suzanne4]

They are two very different things, and the US has never had unlimited green cards for nurses. Never has and never will.

Someone was asking about benficiary visas and there is a limit on those. And we have heard mention of unlimited green cards for years and it has not happened up to date and do not think that it ever will. You do not want an unlimted number of others coming in to the US, you may not agree with me now but ask any that have been here a few years working. The US also has a large number that are in nursing schools at this moment and it only takes two years to train a nurse here before they are ready to begin work, same time that is takes to get thru licensure and immigration on average for many of you.

The unions are also very strong in the US and have job needs to have their approval as well before the I-140 is going to be submitted and accepted. And they have never wished for unlimited visas and will be strongly against this.

We have also seen so many bills come and go, that until they are actually approved by the House and the Senate, and get signed into Law, they are just talk and nothing more.

We have not seen an increase in the number of EB-3 visas and and the number of applicants is only increasing, not going down so chances to get a visa are going to actually be harder and harder to come by.

You can read all you want about this, but it is just not going to happen.

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by dave23

well lets just pray im sure it will be resolve soon lets not be negative even if it is just a bill.

This is an election year, nothing is going to be resolved quickly.
Look at it the other way around, what if there were plenty of jobs in your country, and then all of a sudden the flood gates opened and many entered and attempted to take your job, what would your feelinge be like?

The US is very strongly union and with the number of jobs that have been sent overseas, there is almost a boycott in place in some areas. The nursing unions are also covered by the auto unions and they are very strong in number, it just is not going to happen. And prayer has nothing to do with it at all.

The US is also under a recession and why should a facility pay about $10,000 for a foreign nurse approximately before they can begin work when it is less than that even for tuition at a community college for an American and a job is provided for them as well.

Because one government has gone crazy and is being overrun by nursing students, does not mean that the US has to open their doors to select all. And if there were to be an increase in the numbers accepted, they are going to go to those with substantial work experience so that they will need minimual orientation, not coming in as a new grad or without any clincial experience.

If you take the time to do some research on this forum, you will see hundreds and hundreds of threads on this very same topic and we have not seen one thing pass as of yet. Schedule A came and is gone.

[ryan_2008]

Originally Posted by suzanne4

This is an election year, nothing is going to be resolved quickly.
Look at it the other way around, what if there were plenty of jobs in your country, and then all of a sudden the flood gates opened and many entered and attempted to take your job, what would your feelinge be like?

The US is very strongly union and with the number of jobs that have been sent overseas, there is almost a boycott in place in some areas. The nursing unions are also covered by the auto unions and they are very strong in number, it just is not going to happen. And prayer has nothing to do with it at all.

The US is also under a recession and why should a facility pay about $10,000 for a foreign nurse approximately before they can begin work when it is less than that even for tuition at a community college for an American and a job is provided for them as well.

Because one government has gone crazy and is being overrun by nursing students, does not mean that the US has to open their doors to select all. And if there were to be an increase in the numbers accepted, they are going to go to those with substantial work experience so that they will need minimual orientation, not coming in as a new grad or without any clincial experience.

If you take the time to do some research on this forum, you will see hundreds and hundreds of threads on this very same topic and we have not seen one thing pass as of yet. Schedule A came and is gone.

Hi, Suzanne,
If given the chance to have a comment or opinion infront of a Congressional Committee on Nurses Retrogression, what would you recommend to the panel?