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Old Nov 06, 2004, 12:57 AM
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I talk to all my patients regardless. And yes, that even includes my patients that are dead, that I am doing post mortem care on. Hope this helps!

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Old Nov 16, 2004, 03:21 AM
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I have never had the opportunity to be in this type of situation but my feelings are that I would talk to them. I am someone who believes in afterlife and meeting again one day. Even though they are dead who can say that their spirit isn't still around. Just my 2cents.


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Old Nov 16, 2004, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_at_lucas_RN
Sounds very healthy to me. It would be a different story if you were annoyed that "Jane" didn't answer you!


teeeehheeeeeee!!!

(sorry, got carried away)

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Old Nov 17, 2004, 04:58 PM
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I want to thank everyone for their thoughtful and interesting responses. I'm in the final stages of my thesis - I am so very, very over it by now! - and this discussion has been amazingly helpful. I'm thinking about revisiting the area for a PhD in 2006, so if anyone has further comments, please keep them coming!

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Old Dec 02, 2004, 07:17 AM
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Just for the record, I talk to brain dead patients...and staff!

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Old Jan 10, 2005, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by StephanieMc
I APPLAUD you Kyriaka.....I give you a standing ovation for being able to survive all you have endured..

With tears in my eyes... I applaud you too!!

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Old Jan 10, 2005, 07:01 PM
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in a ltc facility there was a woman in a persistent vegatative state...during state survey the nurse was wrote up for failing to talk to resident while doing a tube feeding...
those who believe that the nurses were so stupid that they could not see the condition of the patient are just giving them a pat on the back...the big me little you syndrome

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Old Jan 11, 2005, 12:32 PM
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I really do believe that a person should be spoken to no matter what condition they are in. They may not be able to hear us, but it helps us remember that they are a human being not an object and they should be respected in life and death.

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Old Feb 24, 2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NeuroICURN
And how are we supposed to know your personal beliefs??? I may know that the Jewish faith is listed....but does that mean that you are a practicing Jew? And....what's the harm in asking??? Just because you are Orthodox...does that mean that we should automatically not even ask??? How ridiculous is that? How ridiculous of you to even suggest it!

NeuroICURN
Well, maybe you could ask a clergyman of SOME faith. They would probably recognize that the kind of Orthodox the poster is is NOT Jewish, but Christian. (The Greek population is primarily Greek Orthodox; the Romanians, Romanian Orthodox. There might have been a few other clues: Jewish clergyfolk are called rabbis and not priests; Jews generally don't talk about "salvation"; and why would a Jew compare himself to Roman Catholics?

And when someone is facing the death of a loved one, yes, there can be harm in asking. Like I say, why not try asking a clergyperson, who could put you in touch with the clergyperson from that faith, of whom you could ask questions. Really. Is a few minutes like that such a big deal when someone is facing the death of their loved one???

As for heart transplants, Orthodox believe that the heart is where sanctification takes place. Since sanctification is the "work" of the individual person (in cooperation with God), transplanting that sanctification into another person is deemed incorrect. May seem stupid to you, but is that what matters?

NurseFirst

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Old Feb 24, 2005, 05:53 PM
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[quote=NeuroICURN]Actually Earle, an EEG is NOT a must before removing support. Perhaps in your facility it is, but not in mine.

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You are correct.

I was in a coma and my parents were under a great deal of pressure to remove me from life support...and look at me now!

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