reply to nightowl,we have something in common good old va jokes or uncle sams slaves,this was in a locked psych ward in fort lyons,its closed now southeastern colorado,anyway the psych group was meeting for therapy, and i kept on waiting for the doc to get there,well time marched on and i told the man next to me what happened to the leader of our group,he politely grinned and saidIAM DR. PHIL,well i felt about 2 inches tall,embarassment was the understatement..........could of fooled me.here is a bit of philosophy OLD NURSES NEVER DIE THEY JUST QUIT MAKING ROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!I LOVE THE OLD VA CENTERS LONG HALLS,TUNNELSIN THE BASEMENT,PLASTIC FOOD TRAYS,BRINGS BACK ALOT OF MEMORIES,Have you ever seen the movieARTICLE 39,YOU NEEDED TO LIVE AT THAT VA CENTER.......take care,darby.