[cosmetic tattooist]

hi everyone it seems that you all have questions that i can answer. first of all in colorado my state it is within scope of practice to do perm makeup and microderm with out a physician. that is why i have 2 offices with no headaches. i offer training in these fields. i have been doing procedures since 1993 and teaching for 2 years now. insurance for those of you already doing aesthetics should contact marineagency.com and speak to marylynn at x 15. my students receive 10% off malpractice rates. if anyone has any specific questions let me know i love to share info that sometimes seems hard to find.
sincerly,steph

[RobRob]

I am also looking for aesthics training I'd love to be cert. in botox etc. I live around the Houston Galveston TX area. I am the head of my household and cannot travel to far. Any idea's anybody?

[cosmetic tattooist]

Hi RobRob
aesthetics is a rewarding and lucrative career so your headed in the right direction. It is also a happy business. I've been in the field since 1993 and this year brought my husband into my practice as a nurse. he has been a chiropractor since 85 but the body demands are great. aesthetics is usually a sit down job. anyway to really learn your skills it would be in your interest to find the right school even if you have to travel the 4 to 6 days would be worth it. There are worth while schools out there. don't want to advertise so if you are interested in Permanent Makeup, Microdermabrasion, cold laser therapy, etc contact me for more info. good luck

[bnrn03]

Hi I am rather new to this site and I want to venture into aesthetic nursing. I live in Pa. I need to find somewhere to take the courses and someone who can help me along in getting a business started. I have seen some advertisements for different courses and just have no clue where to go. Please help.

[cluveges]

Steph,

Can you tell me a little more about Aesthetics Nursing. Such as how long does it take to become certified, how much does it cost, and what type of salary can I look forward to...I'm currently in L&D working night shift, but I want a life now, especially with my girls being 9 and 11. Any information you can give me is well appreciated.

Thank you,
Christine

[Tanya RN]

Well I have an interview with a doc starting a Medical Aesthetics business tomorrow to work prn to start. Currently he is performing Botox out of his office and wife's hair salon/spa. Any words of advice?

This will be my second interview regarding Medical Aesthetics. I did not get the first job I applied for. It was taken by an LPN with experience in Botox and lasers. Can LPN's perform these procedures in other states as well? I live in TN. Apparently the NPA does not address this at all for TN. I am a little discouraged 'cause I figure an LPN would perform these functions with a lower fee than RN's.

[Tiffany$$]

To all of you interested in Esthetics Nursing and all of you working in this field of nursing: HELP! I did goto the Esthetics Skin Institute in Ft. Lauderdale, FL and was trained by Sasha Parker. I spent a small fortune in training, then purchased equipment, etc. Set up shop doind microdermabrasions while looking for a physician so I could do Botox, etc. That was 2 yrs ago! I still have not found a physician to work with me. I did microdermabrasions and wonderful skincare using her line of skinecare, which is wonderful by the way, but you could, and I did, go broke trying to earn a living that way. No doctor will work with me especially in Florida where the Board of Medicine, which regulates doctors, has directly addressed this issue of RNs doing injectibles and clearly stated it was illegal for RNs to do this is this state. When I spoke to Sasha and her staff and told them this "law" came out several months before I spent my life savings going into this, they should have known this, they should have told me this, etc. They told me "the Board of Medicine does not regulate Nursing, only physicians and since the board of nursing has not directly regulated this practice we can go ahead and perform these procedures". Well isn't that great?! So, now I am looking for a doctor to work with me who will be directly going against his governing board. Where do you find a doctor like that? And if you did, would you really want to work with him? Even is you were perfect, eventually something can go wrong, or even just have some one make a complaint, and where do you think your doctor will be? Standing behind you? I don't think so. Not at the expense of his license anyway. So, the moral of this story is I WASTED A TON OF MONEY. Although it seems like it would be a profitable field, and even fun, it ain't gonna happen! At least not in Florida....has anyone had any better experiences with this than I have had? Please reply.

[Tanya RN]

I hate that for FL nurses who went through that course. There is not much you can do except move if you want to perform injectables.

I had no problem here in TN finding a medical director. I actually had to choose out of 2 docs.

Well I am excited to say I injected 3 syringes of Restylane, 100 units of Botox and performed a dental block (not all on the same patient)! I was great. I thin I found my niche!!!

[MHarrah]

Tiffany,

FL seems like such a difficult state to deal with when it comes to this practice. I don't have any words of wisdom. But I hope things work out for you someway, somehow. I think the reality is that we are all going to eventually have this problem...one state at a time. I'm In WV, and we are not up to date on things like FL is. but I'll probably have the same issue several years down the road.


Tanya,

Great to hear that you're doing well! What percentage do you get to keep? Is the doctor there when you do your procedures? Reading your post makes me want to go take the dermal fillers course at AEI (where I learned peels, micro) BUT READ BELOW


Everbody, here is my current issue. I want to learn Botox and Restylane now. BUT I currently don't have a physician for what I'm doing (peels, micro) because I don't have to have one here. But with dermal fillers, I would have to? right? because no matter what state you live in, only a doctor can order those injectables. right? correct me if I'm wrong. SO could a resident be my ordering physician? I've met a few very competent residents here. One in particular who has become a good friend, is finishing up his general surgery residency and starting plastic surgery residency. I would love it if he could be my medical director.


I am finding a recurrent problem. Prospective clients ask "do you do botox", "do you do permanent makeup" etc. And I have to say No. And basically they walk away, and I don't get any business from them. So that's why I feel the need to add more procedures to my practice.

[cosmetic tattooist]

Hey gals
I work entirely free of md involvement. it's the only wasy to go. check your state regs and sometimes they are vagur. here in colorado we can do perm makeup, microderm, lamprobe for skin tags, brown spots etc. i care not to do the fillers because the insurance for one will kill you, it is highly competative so it has driven the prices down and you have to pay an md to sponsor and the spa a fee it;s not worth it. my advice is try to do it yourself so you can keep your profit. i work approx 2-3 days a week, got my husband a DC to go back to nursing school and now we wrok together in a small office low overhead and making outstanding money. NO BOSS
in conclusion do your homework before entering one of the courses that promise. it is up to us to check all avenues in every state we wish ot work.