[Bala Shark]

The reason why nursing school is tuff because the directors want the students to pass NCLEX..They make the course work hard so that they will know only bright students will pass NCLEX...If the school gets under a 75% pass rate on NCLEX, the school will be put on probation...

I over heard this while the directer was talking to an instructor..

[1Tulip]

Dear Bala:

I don't want to sound uppity or unsympathetic, but why is this a bad thing? When there is such competition for admissions to nursing school, why should "under-performers" be kept on board?

[genhen]

And your point is........?

[Bala Shark]

Originally Posted by 1Tulip

Dear Bala:

I don't want to sound uppity or unsympathetic, but why is this a bad thing? When there is such competition for admissions to nursing school, why should "under-performers" be kept on board?

It is not fair in doing this..In my school, if you miss a day of lecture, you will struggle to pass the whole semester since you are down a lot of points and the lecture covered the exam...And they present too much information to know at one time..And they give these questions to you from out of the blue in the multiple choice test..It is not fair..In regular college, like general education, classes will not be like nursing school in terms of filtering you out!

[genhen]

"In regular college, like general education, classes will not be like nursing school in terms of filtering you out!"

I can tell that your frustrated. Nursing school is tough. In general education classes, you are not taking care of someones life. In general education classes, you are not figuring out SAFE med does, drug interactions, or contraindications.

What we do affects the lives of our patients. Nurses are held to a higher standard that your typical Joe business major (nothing against business majors). If I was a patient, I would want a nurse who knew what he/she was doing. I don't want a nurse that passed through a easy Nursing school because that school didn't want to hurt students "feelings" or make the work too tough.

Think about the bigger picture. Look at the effect that an incompetent nurse has on society or even on a department. I'm sure that nurses already working could tell you stories upon stories about incompetent nurses.

Here is one. A nurse gave a patient Pavulon (Pancuronium). This is a paralytic which is only given to a patient that is on a vent. Guess what? This nurse gave it to a patient that was not on a vent. The med paralyzed the breathing muscles and this patient died. Nurse lost her license, hospital got sued. A big, ugly mess.

I don't mean to sound harsh but nursing school is hard for a reason.

Peace
Genhen

[1Tulip]

Originally Posted by Bala Shark

It is not fair in doing this..In my school, if you miss a day of lecture, you will struggle to pass the whole semester since you are down a lot of points and the lecture covered the exam...And they present too much information to know at one time..And they give these questions to you from out of the blue in the multiple choice test..It is not fair..In regular college, like general education, classes will not be like nursing school in terms of filtering you out!

Bala, you're right. It is different than general eduacation classes. But on the other hand, no one ever died because they diagramed a sentance incorrectly. No one has yet been killed because they didn't know who William the Conqueror was, or blanked on the name of the inventor of the steam engine... if you catch my meaning.

And you're absolutely right. Miss a day in lecture and you are almost hopelessly behind in nursing school. If you cannot be in class you should have someone tape record the lecture and collect handouts for you. Then you should work your butt off to read the textbooks and recommended readings in order to catch up.

Nursing care of sick people is very serious business. You need to get this in your head before you go any further.

[urcina]

With all this being said, do you guys think that failing the NCLEX means that the person will be a bad nurse?

[Bala Shark]

Originally Posted by urcina

With all this being said, do you guys think that failing the NCLEX means that the person will be a bad nurse?

Taking NCLEX would be a walk in a park if I take it compared to what I go through now..

[genhen]

You ask if a person failing the NCLEX would be a bad nurse. While this is off thread, I'll take a shot at it.

Failing the NCLEX does not necessarily equate to being a bad nurse. Some people have test anxiety and some people learn at a slower rate. I know of a great nurse who failed the NCLEX five times. She got anxious anytime you mentioned the word "test". She passed on the sixth time and is a great nurse.

On the other hand, if you repeatedly fail the NCLEX it does raise a red flag that merits further thought about this person being a nurse.

It comes down to if this person is truly ready to be a nurse. I believe that nursing school preparation for the NCLEX, nursing school clinical rotations, and passing the NCLEX, prepares you to become a nurse.

Peace
Genhen

[Bala Shark]

Originally Posted by genhen

You ask if a person failing the NCLEX would be a bad nurse. While this is off thread, I'll take a shot at it.

Failing the NCLEX does not necessarily equate to being a bad nurse. Some people have test anxiety and some people learn at a slower rate. I know of a great nurse who failed the NCLEX five times. She got anxious anytime you mentioned the word "test". She passed on the sixth time and is a great nurse.

On the other hand, if you repeatedly fail the NCLEX it does raise a red flag that merits further thought about this person being a nurse.

It comes down to if this person is truly ready to be a nurse. I believe that nursing school preparation for the NCLEX, nursing school clinical rotations, and passing the NCLEX, prepares you to become a nurse.

Peace
Genhen

Acutally, a person can pass NCLEX, by self studying in my view...When you make nursing school where the school is at threat of being on probation, then the school will look after their own intrests rather than the students..