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Old Jun 18, 2004, 11:46 AM
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Paxil and Suicide-Confirmed in trials

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Shamed Glaxo's u-turn on 'suicide' drug
by BEEZY MARSH and TIM UTTON, Daily Mail

08:49am 15th June 2004
Britain's biggest drugs firm has caved in dramatically and revealed research which shows a leading anti-depressant can cause children to attempt suicide.
In an astonishing u-turn, Glaxo-SmithKline finally published full details of nine scientific studies and two clinical reviews which expose the dangers posed to under-18s who take Seroxat.

Children on Seroxat are twice as likely to have suicidal thoughts than those on a dummy pill, it emerged.


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Alarmingly, one study showed six youngsters on Seroxat wanted to kill themselves, compared to just one taking a placebo pill.
The drug was also linked to distressing side effects including hostility, insomnia, dizziness, tremors and emotional irritability.

Damning findings

Campaigners say the damning findings were suppressed for up to a decade while thousands of teenagers and children as young as six continued to be given the pills to ease depression.

At one point, doctors had even hailed Seroxat as a "wonderdrug" to help people overcome shyness.

The firm is facing a major lawsuit amid allegations that drug regulators were duped into thinking Seroxat - which is worth £2billion a year to Glaxo - was safe for children.

A number of youngsters are known to have committed suicide while taking the drug, but it was not until last year that doctors were banned from prescribing it to under-18s because of the suicide risk.

Some estimate that more than 50,000 under-18s in the UK were prescribed Seroxat between 1990, when it was licensed here, and last year when the ban was imposed by Government medical regulators.

Anguished parents

Anguished parents have complained that their children became suicidal while on Seroxat then showed horrendous withdrawal symptoms when they tried to come off it.

A civil lawsuit has been filed against Glaxo in the US by New York State attorney general Eliot Spitzer, who claims the firm suppressed at least four studies on the drug.

More than 3,000 UK families have also started legal action against Glaxo seeking compensation for their ordeal. They include a number of parents whose children committed suicide while on

Seroxat. Full details of the controversial studies were published on the Internet only after the medical establishment turned on Glaxo.

In an unprecedented attack, the respected Lancet medical journal last week accused the drugs giant of losing touch with its basic humanity over the Seroxat scandal.

'Suicidal thinking'

In an editorial, the journal said: "GSK appears to be floundering in the semantic depths.

"While it has been earnestly parsing the meaning of 'suicidal thinking' and 'publicly', it appears to have forgotten what lies behind those words - people. The time has come for these matters to be revealed in a bright and public light."

The Lancet said the safety and efficacy of Seroxat in children had been tested in "at least five studies sponsored by GSK, only one of which has been published".

It revealed that, although the results of this trial were mixed, they were heralded in a memo as showing "remarkable efficacy and safety in the treatment of adolescent depression".

The Lancet also poured scorn on Glaxo's argument that trials data was made public. This was done at scientific meetings attended only by specialists and published in the letters pages of medical journals.

Medical authorities here are investigating whether Glaxo complied with legal requirements to make all relevant clinical trial data on the drug available.

Too little too late

Last night. a leading consultant psychiatrist who was among the first to question the safety of Seroxat, said the publication of the Glaxo-funded Seroxat studies was too little, too late.

Dr David Healy, of the University of North Wales, said: "If the data had been out there from the start, we could have avoided some of the problems we have seen with Seroxat.

"If people had been aware of the evidence from the trials and seen the risks, they could have reduced the risks of adverse events happening. Parents could have been told to keep a closer eye on their children."

The nine studies were made available to the Government's regulators, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority, only in May last year.

The details lay behind the decision to ban doctors from prescribing Seroxat to under-18s. A spokesman for GlaxoSmith Kline last night said it had already communicated the trials data to the medical community in the normal way through meetings, letters and papers over the last decade.

Medical regulators

Medical regulators were also given the data as soon as the risk of suicidal thoughts became clear.

But he added: "We thought in the interest of transparency and given the interest in this area that we would publish all the documents on the website.

"We have made no attempt to hide results or mislead regulators or the medical community. Studies individually show no consistent evidence of a problem in terms of the safety issue.

"It really was not until the nine studies had been completed and we had combined it with further review in 2003 that we saw there was a potential signal."

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Old Jun 20, 2004, 09:22 PM
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Good article. This surprises me that Paxil was being used to treat only depression though. I was prescribed Paxil for anxiety and depression: the anxiety was relieved but I felt more depressed and my psychiatrist said that this was common. I also know other people who were prescribed it for anxiety and depression but who remained depressed. It thought that it was a drug used mostly for controlling anxiety.

Sometimes I get miffed by the wording used around suicide. The way people word makes it seem as if a drug can cause suicidal thoughts. But I think, to be more specific, one would say, the drug causes the anxiety/depression/other symptom that leads up to sucide/suicidal thoughts. I guess its the same difference but I feel that the latter is more repectful: I dont know why.

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Old Jun 20, 2004, 10:05 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that paxil does not work well with children. I am wondering if these children were suicidal before starting the paxil?
I have been taking paxil for the past 2 months and I am feeling less depressed
and am doing much better now.

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Old Jun 20, 2004, 10:13 PM
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" I'm sorry to hear that paxil does not work well with children. I am wondering if these children were suicidal before starting the paxil?"

My son was never suicidal until he started taking paxil. Be very careful with this drug! My son was fine for the 1st 6 months and then we started to see the aggression, death obsession,not caring about anything attitude. Then add to all this the 2 suicide attempts while weaning off, luckily not successful.The weaning process to come off paxil is awful. It took us 12 weeks to wean him off. Electrical type brain zaps, nausea,dizziness,anger, aggression happened with each wean and took 3 weeks to stabilize. I'm now happy to report he's off paxil and doing wonderful!! Full of life again, sense of humor is back, out with friends. These problems are not only seen in children. Its estimated that 20% of paxil users with have a protracted withdrawal. New information is coming out everyday about the SSRI's. Very scary stuff!!

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Old Jun 20, 2004, 10:38 PM
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Wow! That's awful! Your son had 2 suicide attempts after taking paxil for 6 months! Yikes that is scary! I am so glad to hear that your son is doing much better now. Hmmm... maybe I better think about getting off paxil too!

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Old Jun 20, 2004, 10:41 PM
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Check out this website. Its for those who are getting off Paxil. It might give you a little insight from those who have been on Paxil.I'm not trying to scare you, just give you another side of the story.

www.paxilprogress.org

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Old Jun 21, 2004, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lsyorke
Check out this website. Its for those who are getting off Paxil. It might give you a little insight from those who have been on Paxil.I'm not trying to scare you, just give you another side of the story.

www.paxilprogress.org
Wow! That is scary! It's a great site! I think I'm going to start weaning myself off my Paxil. Thanks

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Old Jun 21, 2004, 09:31 PM
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It was paxilprogress that saved my sons life.You can read his whole thread in the family support section under Teenager/post traumatic stress/paxil. My son was dropped by his psychiatrist after the suicide attempts.He didn't want him back as a patient because his drug screen showed pot. We have now discovered that pot use in paxil use is very common because is calms the akasthesia(constant restlessness). It amazes me that an adolescent psychiatrist would do this. We have never heard from him again.
Its a shame I had to find a Canadian message board to get information that saved my sons life.But thank God I did or he would probably be dead by now. Good Luck in weaning! You should tell whoever prescribed the Paxil that you want to wean off. Weaning off very slow is the only way to go to minimize the withdrawal effects.Paxilprogress is a VERY supportive group of people who have gone through it and can offer advice or just be there to listen.

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Old Jun 22, 2004, 08:44 AM
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lsyorke - my best wishes to Ry and yourself now that the bad days are behind you. I read your thread and what a story that is! Good luck to you both for the future.

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Old Jun 22, 2004, 09:06 AM
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Thanks Clive UK!! As you can tell by that thread, its was quite a roller coaster ride. Your country is soooo far ahead of the U.S. in banning SSRI's in teenagers. Hopefully our activism will have the same done here soon. Until that time I will continue to beat the drum to warn other parents!!

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