[beachbum3]

I don't think being a RN in the OR is what I thought it was. I always thought one RN scrubbed, and then there was also another RN that was the circulating nurse. This is not so? Surgical Techs now do the scrubbing? This is true everywhere?

[mikethern]

Correct. Most of the time, the scrub person is a tech because they cost less to employ.

[CIRQL8]

see this thread to:

http://allnurses.com/forums/f8/scrub...hs-212711.html

Here is what I wrote there:

This is pretty much the way that things are going. I worked in an institution that did not allow RNs to scrub. Only one RN could scrub, and only for breaks, and only because she was a scrub tech there while going through nursing school.

The place that I am at now does allow RNs to train to scrub. There are only a couple left that are only scrubs (take scrub call, etc) - but as of 2008, this is supposed to end as well. Only the scrub tech will be a full time scrub. RNs will still be allowed to scrub as necessary (if trained), but will be discouraged.

And you are right - it is a budget (money) thing. Scrubs cost 1/2 to 3/4 (depending on longevity and pay scales) than does an RN.

At my institution, a scrub must have graduated from an accredited surgical technology program (or have previous scrub experience). Certification is preferred, but not required for the scrub.

From a nurses point of view - I like this. It may allow for more FTE's and possible a greated budget and more cost effectiveness. This is a must in this day and age of insurance and government reimbursement. I rely on my scrubs as much as on my nurse colleagues. They may be a wealth of information - especially the ones with experience.

[TracyB,RN]

OOOOHHHH... this topic just really TICKS me off.
No offense to any scrub techs out there, but I want to be able to scrub AND circulate. There are some facilities in the Chicago area that only hire RN's that can do both, but of course, all too far from home for me to make the call requirement. This is a very sore spot for me. It's not like I can't scrub a super basic case, but I want to become confident & well-versed in scrubbing all types of surgeries & at the facility I'm at, it's just not going to happen. I love what I do, but know I would love it even MORE, if I could just scrub. Heck, I'd even be happy just being a relief person for scrub techs, but eagerness alone definitely isn't getting me there. Hopefully, soon, I find another place within that 30 min time frame, but the pickins are slim... It's really sad. I think a nurse that can scrub AND circulate is a much more efficient circulator, but not according to TPTB at my facility....
I'm going to stop now, b/c I could go onfor hours about this!!!!

[EricG]

My first year as a circulator I never scrubbed. Didn't really care to either. The last year I have scrubbed/assisted as many cases as I have circulated! I love assisting and would choose it over circulating now given the opportunity. Guess it's time to take a look at RNFA training.......

[anotherneonurse]

So what do nurses do in the OR? I mean why have them circulating even? Couldn't we find a cheaper alternative for that too? Maybe they should have us cutting and save money on doctors.

[shodobe]

Old thread. Search this subject out and you will find out that there are many, many of us left who scrub all the time!. Where I work we are a rarity and have have an all RN staff, with one Tech, that HAVE to learn how to scrub along with circulating. We do it all. If you come to work for us you better want to learn how to scrub or go somewhere else because you won't be hired.

[mikethern]

Originally Posted by shodobe

Old thread. Search this subject out and you will find out that there are many, many of us left who scrub all the time!. Where I work we are a rarity and have have an all RN staff, with one Tech, that HAVE to learn how to scrub along with circulating. We do it all. If you come to work for us you better want to learn how to scrub or go somewhere else because you won't be hired.

Yes, but your facility is the exception these days, not the rule. Also, I highly doubt that your facility will refuse to hire a nurse who only wants to circulate.

[subee]

Originally Posted by mikethern

Yes, but your facility is the exception these days, not the rule. Also, I highly doubt that your facility will refuse to hire a nurse who only wants to circulate.

One of my best friends loves to scrub and didn't want the stupidity of circulating (just bread and butter here) so she works for a tech's salary
as a tech. She was such an excellent charge nurse when she worked as an RN but really isn't a people person and is much happier scrubbing the bigger cases. Again, please explain how scrubbing relates to nursing and why a hospital should spend months teaching a nurse how to do a tech's job?

[mikethern]

Originally Posted by subee

Again, please explain how scrubbing relates to nursing and why a hospital should spend months teaching a nurse how to do a tech's job?

Are you kidding? Scrubbing WAS a nurse's job before they were replaced by less expensive techs. If hospitals could get away with replacing ALL types nurses with less expensive workers, they would do so in a heartbeat. It's all about money.