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Old May 13, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Which should I do first? RN or Midwifery?

Hi! I'm am graduating from high school next week. I know I want to go into nursing, but I would also like to be a midwife. I want to do both, so which one would be better to do first? I haven't exactly enjoyed school, but I'm excited now that I'm getting into something that I think I will enjoy! I'm just not sure which one to do first and I don't know who else to ask.

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Emily

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Old May 13, 2004, 01:10 PM
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I think to be a CNM, you must have your RN before you can train in midwifery. I'm not sure, though.

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Old May 13, 2004, 02:09 PM
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CNM = certified NURSE midwife.

Yes, you must be an RN first to be able to then further your education for a certification in nursing midwifery.

I do believe, however, that there do exist "midwives" without any type of nursing degree.... illegally practicing in many states, though I don't think it's illegal in all.

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Old May 13, 2004, 02:20 PM
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You have to be an RN to go to Midwifery school. most programs are master's degrees...Good luck....

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Old May 13, 2004, 02:48 PM
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There are nurse-midwives (CNM's) and non-nurse midwives (they have various abbreviations because lisensure varies state to state). Non-nurse midwives don't go to nursing school first. They both aspire to use the midwifery model of care, but CNM's are typically trained to do a wider range of medical procedures as well. Nurse midwives may deliver in all settings but do more hospital births on average, non-nurse midwives usually can't work hospital deliveries so they deliver in freestanding birth centers and do homebirths. If you google "How to become a midwife" you'll get a lot of info. Also see www.acnm.org for lots of information on nurse-midwifery. That's what I'm shooting for! Best wishes!

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Old May 13, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Many CNM programs also require you to have 2-5 years experience in L&D BEFORE you go into a program. Think about it: you'll be practicing as an ADVANCED PRACTICE NURSE, therefore, it's mandatory that you have nursing EXPERIENCE.

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Old May 13, 2004, 09:15 PM
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unless you go into lay midwifery, i advice you get experience as a labor/delivery nurse FIRST. after a few years, you may either learn enough to advance or decide midwifery is NOT what you want after all. I decided the latter for myself after learning all the politics and pitfalls involved in nurse midwifery. Good luck to you.

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Old May 14, 2004, 12:08 AM
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The other thing is that if you want to do both, be an RN and a midwife, it make no sense to go the route of the lay-midwife, because the training you may receive in that arena will mean absolutely nothing to the board of nursing and you will not be recognized by them as a CNM.

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Old May 14, 2004, 05:28 AM
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Thanks everyone! I really thought that you would have to have some kind of expierence first. It would only make sense. Thanks for all your input!! I really appreciate it!

Emery

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Old May 14, 2004, 08:28 AM
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To clarify a little more, there is a difference in lay midwifery, direct entry midwifery, and nurse-midwifery. A person can be a direct-entry midwife and not be considered a lay midwife. "The term "Lay Midwife" has been used to designate an uncertified or unlicensed midwife who was educated through informal routes such as self-study or apprenticeship rather than through a formal program.
A direct-entry midwife is an independent practitioner educated in the discipline of midwifery through self-study, apprenticeship, a midwifery school, or a college- or university-based program distinct from the discipline of nursing. So, a direct-entry midwife is not a nurse first but may or may not be a lay midwife. Some direct-entry midwives who seek formal education and legal liscensing may attend Midwifery Education Accreditation Council (MEAC) - accredited schools and take the NARM exam for certification as a CPM (Certified Professional Midwife). Here's an example of a direct-entry midwife MEAC-approved program at Miami Dade College: http://www.mdcc.edu/pdf/programs/as_..._preselect.pdf (for some reason I can only find the prereqs page)
another- Midwives College of Utah:
http://www.midwifery.edu/

The different types of midwives and different designations are confusing, here is a page of definitions that is helpful:
http://www.mana.org/definitions.html

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