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Old Apr 05, 2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

Where in TX is this job (don't worry, I'm not looking to move )? That salary for a FNP is pretty decent compared to what they're paying FNPs here in GA. It's kinda pathetic.

Anyway, I lived in Austin for a few years and truly enjoyed every minute. Kinda wish it wasn't so darn hot most of the year or else I never would have moved away.

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Old Apr 05, 2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

I don't know where the one is of the ad i posted 80-95k.
But I did have a phone interview for a internal medicine position in Waxahachie, he did not talk about benefits but said they are hurting pretty bad for NP's in general.
The community health center is in Kaufman, their range is 70-80, lower end for new grads.
I had 2 phone interviews for a jobs in California wide range, the one near san diego was 37$/hr i believe, but VERY high cost of living in that area. Another one which was sketchy was offering 86k +$1000/mo.bonus if you saw 25+ pts every day, and that was for new grad.

So it really varies.

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Old Apr 11, 2008, 10:48 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

I would definitely not work for salary. I want paid for every hour I work. I've made that mistake in the past as a management RN and always end up working for nothing.

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Old Apr 11, 2008, 11:02 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

Well pretty much most NP jobs are salaried...
Neelia

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Old Apr 11, 2008, 11:05 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

Originally Posted by Dixiecup View Post
I would definitely not work for salary. I want paid for every hour I work. I've made that mistake in the past as a management RN and always end up working for nothing.
Good luck with that. I'm not sure what the statistics are for NPs but more than 80% of PAs are salaried. All of the NPs where I work are salaried. The trick is to work it to your advantage. Make sure that the estimated hours of work are realistic and that you that non-clinical time is included. My last job we were scheduled 4-10s and it ended up about 40-45 hours per week. My current job I am scheduled 30 hours but have 96 hours of call per week. This usually works out but if things go bad then you end up working 60-80 hours. Of course the four day weekends every other week make up for it. If I was hourly I would probably make about the same but I couldn't take off when things are slow.

If they are paying salary it usually means its to their advantage or that they don't understand how to run a business. Neither one is a good thing. What you have to avoid is the jobs that schedule you for 40 hours then give you 60 hours of work to do.

David Carpenter, PA-C

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Old Apr 11, 2008, 11:45 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

Well another job that was a good potential I talked to today. Had an phone interview about 1 week ago or so. waiting for guy to get back to me.
i called 2 times, and sent email. Finally got a call back last night.
I sent the guy an email (b/c i was working) and finally reached him by phone today.

He basically asked when I was coming. I told him some dates that would be good. He was like that is fine any of those days. I asked then well do you have funds to help with interview expenses. He said, oh yeah, about that, i read that in your email. He said although we are affiliated (i would be working for) this large organization, we are a physician group and well i would have to talk to the physicans, yada yada, it would have to come out of their pocket ( i was thinking like okay, its "fine" that it just comes out of mine?)
So anyways, he is supposed to get back to me on mon or tuesday.

I'm not going to give in, just because i feel like that is how mid-levels lose respect, we don't expect or demand it. Also he said during the interview that they just couldn't find any NPs anywhere and really needed 2 of them. So if that is really the case, then they should be able to come up with the funds. (and that is what I will reiterate)

I'm waiting on that negotating book for hopefully some more tips because I don't feel like I am very good at this..

In the meantime I am waiting on more calls for more phone interviews and hope something will eventually pan out!
I'd like to get a job before the May graduation and competition gets stiffer. (its also a pain having days off and I could fly somewhere and visit relatives but i have to wait to see if i get an interview..)
Also i have a wedding of my best friend i HAVE to go to end of June, if I don't get a job soon I guess i will just have to start beginning of July, just hoping that won't look bad having graduated way back in Dec and not gotten a job for 6 months, not to mention not wanting to forget everything!

Neelia


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Old Apr 12, 2008, 07:45 AM
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Re: Negotiating?

You go emtneel! I think you are doing fine. Some places it is hard to find a job. As to them paying for interview expenses - yep - they should. And...they say they are desperate for NPs, then ya gotta pay.

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Old Apr 12, 2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: Negotiating?

Ironic... my school just sent out a copy of contract negotiations for NPs. If you like, I'll be happy to fwd the pdf to you. It's only 7 pages, but cuts it down to the basics.

And my negotiation books arrived the other day! Can't wait to dig into those.

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Old Apr 12, 2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Negotiating?

Originally Posted by traumaRUs View Post
You go emtneel! I think you are doing fine. Some places it is hard to find a job. As to them paying for interview expenses - yep - they should. And...they say they are desperate for NPs, then ya gotta pay.
Well Colorado it is pretty scarse for NP jobs, unless you have experience and/or speak Spanish.
I have family in Texas so am open to moving there and there seems to be plenty of jobs there.
I have a loan repayment so that limits where i can work, and then also finding someone to hire a new grad. Hasn't been the easiest.
Neelia

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Old Apr 12, 2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: Negotiating?

Originally Posted by core0 View Post
Good luck with that. I'm not sure what the statistics are for NPs but more than 80% of PAs are salaried. All of the NPs where I work are salaried. The trick is to work it to your advantage. Make sure that the estimated hours of work are realistic and that you that non-clinical time is included. My last job we were scheduled 4-10s and it ended up about 40-45 hours per week. My current job I am scheduled 30 hours but have 96 hours of call per week. This usually works out but if things go bad then you end up working 60-80 hours. Of course the four day weekends every other week make up for it. If I was hourly I would probably make about the same but I couldn't take off when things are slow.

If they are paying salary it usually means its to their advantage or that they don't understand how to run a business. Neither one is a good thing. What you have to avoid is the jobs that schedule you for 40 hours then give you 60 hours of work to do.

David Carpenter, PA-C
That's exactly why I want to work hourly. I l ive in Missouri and in this area I would say 75% of NP's are paid an hourly wage.

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