[kindaquazie]

Oh, the person who was the transplant technician. Is that person male?

[jzzy88]

n_g:

Just curious and no offense intended, but are most med students (or hopeful pre-meds-don't quite know where you fit in) as contemptuous and shallow as to go to a nursing forum and attack their profession. The student doctor crowd seems to be an embarrassment to the medical profession. There are deeper reasons why people become physicians than to flaunt there ego and fantasies of intellectual superiority. Some people actually like what they study and actually want to be doctors to help heal the sick, not to degrade other members of the health care team. I am surprised why these attitudes of contempt are tolerated to the degree that they are on this forum.

[butterflyeffect]

Originally Posted by kindaquazie

Oh, the person who was the transplant technician. Is that person male?

No...I am female. LOL

[butterflyeffect]

n_g (aka no good),

I hope I have the opportunity to work with you...you love to stir the pot don't you? I wonder how many buttons you have that I can push? What fun you must be.

You are so tired...yawn...

[n_g]

I'm just injecting some reality in these discussions. I don't want to spend an extra two years of my life because Mundinger has an axe to grind with MD's. I'm not the only one who has said it on this forum. The DNP curriculum is a joke. If Mundinger wants to make it equivalent to MD's, then give us a real curriculum that will prepare us to do so. What I see will not do anything to help me earn a higher income or increase my scope.

[ERNP]

I intend to use it

[AtomicWoman]

I have a Ph.D. that I worked my tail off for. I start nursing school in the fall. My husband jokes that it might be a little unusual for a nursing student to be called "doctor". Am I going to insist that people call me Dr.? No. Do I want Ph.D. on my name tag? You bet.

I realize that this is a different scenario than the one the OP presented. But heck, anyone with a doctorate is at least entitled to be called Dr. if s/he wants.

[butterflyeffect]

Originally Posted by n_g

I'm just injecting some reality in these discussions. I don't want to spend an extra two years of my life because Mundinger has an axe to grind with MD's. I'm not the only one who has said it on this forum. The DNP curriculum is a joke. If Mundinger wants to make it equivalent to MD's, then give us a real curriculum that will prepare us to do so. What I see will not do anything to help me earn a higher income or increase my scope.

What kind of reality? Last I checked advanced education was a voluntary pursuit. If the DNP is not good enough for you then do not obtain the DNP. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, if your gripe is that the DNP is not what is should be or that it is being touted as something it is not then perhaps you should become involved in the process governing certification guidelines. Complaining about how something works does nothing to "fix" it if indeed it needs to be fixed.

While the DNP has been around for some time it is only within the past few years that it has truly gained momentum. As with any theory, idea, etc that is put into practice there is a process of development that occurs over time as practice often reveals areas of improvement. Again, if you strongly feel that you have the hindsight to reveal such flaws and to offer constructive criticism...you know the kind of criticism that not only tells someone how "stupid" something is but that has a suggestion on how to make it not so "stupid"...then please present your ideas and concerns to a governing body that can do something about it. Write letters with your research and findings (or publish your research and findings in a peer reviewed journal), join organizations that support your cause or start one yourself, or even join the organization that has power over the decision making process and run for office so that your two cents is worth a little more than everyone else's two cents.

Otherwise all your yapping is just pointless blabber and white noise to all who hear it. And, do not think for one minute that one person cannot illicit change...that is complete bunk. Own your beliefs by putting them into practice...make your ideas and opinions count by finding a solution to what you perceive as a problem and then give your solution to someone who can make a difference. Or, become that person who makes a difference yourself.

"It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference."
Tom Brokaw

[jzzy88]

I think the option of med school is still on the table for those of us who want to delve more deeply into the science aspect of medicine. I don't know if the DNP degree will ever encompass the depth that a medical degree might. I personally would much rather have additional science classes rather than management type classes. I hope that the DNP curriculum is changed to something I'd like to study, or it may be no a good expenditure of time for me. It's important to study what inspires us, if that is medicine or if it is nursing or if it is philosophy, so be it.

[elkpark]

Originally Posted by jzzy88

I think the option of med school is still on the table for those of us who want to delve more deeply into the science aspect of medicine. I don't know if the DNP degree will ever encompass the depth that a medical degree might. I personally would much rather have additional science classes rather than management type classes. I hope that the DNP curriculum is changed to something I'd like to study, or it may be no a good expenditure of time for me. It's important to study what inspires us, if that is medicine or if it is nursing or if it is philosophy, so be it.

It's never going to "encompass the depth that a medical degree might" -- nurse practitioner programs, whether Master's or doctorate degrees, are designed to prepare mid-level providers, not physicians. Nurse practitioner preparation is not going to be changed to what you want it to be. From reading your posts, it seems you will be much happier with medical school.