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Old Jan 25, 2006, 05:50 PM
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Peripheral Arterial Lines

What type of method do you use to draw blood from a peripheral arterial line? Do you use the "drip" method or do you draw back with a syringe? Is there any evidence-based research on this? Thanks!

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Old Jan 25, 2006, 06:20 PM
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Policy says to do the drip method to avoid any chance of collapsing the artery. Many nurses do the drawback method anyways.

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Old Jan 25, 2006, 07:56 PM
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Our policy says to use the drip method. I've seen nurses use the draw back method, which I don't like because it requires you to clear the line with a fair amount of flush afterward.

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Old Jan 25, 2006, 08:04 PM
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Drip. I've tried the pull back, but it's spasmed the artery.

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Old Jan 25, 2006, 09:54 PM
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Re: Peripheral Arterial Lines

drip 3 drops, then draw slowly using a 1cc syringe

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Old Jan 26, 2006, 05:24 PM
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Do you know of any evidenced-based research on this or is this "just what we do"?

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Old Jan 27, 2006, 10:32 AM
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We draw back slowly.

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Old Jan 27, 2006, 10:12 PM
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Drip only. Can't afford to lose lines.

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Old Jan 28, 2006, 03:00 AM
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Okay, wow, we must be doing something totally different.

We draw back on our lines, and only use the drip method when a line is really bad, on it's last legs. I dont know how everyone else's tubing is set up - but we use a T-connector right at the hub of the IV, and we use that port right by the skin. We clamp the line, draw back 0.5ml of blood/saline (and discard) to clear the hub, and then draw our samples with 1ml syringes. Once in a while we'll have some spasms, but then we just go really slow, and let it pass. I've never had an artery just completely collapse on me.

I've seen some trying to pull the blood back from the other end of the T-connector is, like where the flush and connection to the transducer is. Then I've seen a lot of problems, and then you do need an awful lot of flush to clear the line. When we draw from the hub by the skin, it takes less than 0.5ml to clear the hub of blood after a draw.

Are we the only ones who don't routinely use the drip method? I like that everything is contained when using syringes. No mess, no chance of contamination.

We've never had a bad incident with using this type of method. If a line is so sensitive that we have to use the drip method, it's usually pulled and replaced within the day.
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Old Feb 05, 2006, 07:52 PM
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We also use a t-connector with a port right at the hub.

We clamp the t-connector, stick a 25 ga needle into the hub and drip 3 drops before connecting the syringe to the needle hub. After the draw, we withdraw the needle and unclamp the t-connector - no flushing.

I have drawn 8ml from a PAL at one time using 5ml and 3ml syringes (3 Kg kid that needed fancy metabolic tests).

I've rarely had problems with spasms and never clotted one by drawing.

Nell

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