[bagatelle800]

Opinions regarding union hospitals to non-union hospitals would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
kat

[herring_RN]

Plenty of discussion here:

http://allnurses.com/forums/f323/uni...es-166810.html

[HM2Viking]

Endless discussion threads....

As for me "I am a union man"

In Solidarity

[bigreddog1934]

im am solidly union here; they need to be ready to fight for the rank and file, however and not just an extension of management.

[mdfog10]

An inury to one is an injury to all............

[Aprilhere]

I think it depends on the facility the union and the rep. I work at a union hospital..and it's great. But...my last semester of nursing school I did my preceptorship at a union hospital and they hated the union. Their issues were never addressed and they were just unhappy about dues.

I think I get every penny's worth from my union where I am.

[jeolsz]

When you feel you are incapable of sticking up for yourself.. When you feel you need someone else to fight your battles... When you give up your right to work hard for advancement and replace it with advancing people with more senoirity....When you think that you less to offer than your education or professional license provides...And lastly when you think your coworker's needs to provide for his/her family is greater and more important than your own.. Then and only then vote for a union....

But, if you are willing to take ownership of your life and career and stop whining about how unfair life is... If you take credit for working hard, being accountable and acknowledge the fact that you have alot to offer, especially in a time of nursing shortage.. Then a union is not for you...

Come on guys.. Don't short change yourselves.. You are all educated professionals. act like it!

[Aprilhere]

Originally Posted by jeolsz

When you feel you are incapable of sticking up for yourself.. When you feel you need someone else to fight your battles... When you give up your right to work hard for advancement and replace it with advancing people with more senoirity....When you think that you less to offer than your education or professional license provides...And lastly when you think your coworker's needs to provide for his/her family is greater and more important than your own.. Then and only then vote for a union....

But, if you are willing to take ownership of your life and career and stop whining about how unfair life is... If you take credit for working hard, being accountable and acknowledge the fact that you have alot to offer, especially in a time of nursing shortage.. Then a union is not for you...

Come on guys.. Don't short change yourselves.. You are all educated professionals. act like it!

In a perfect world...YES..non union would be great. But- non union doesn't mean you advance for hard work. Often it means only that good negotiation gets more $$..and hardworking but timid nurses make less. I'm all for knowing when and how much my next raise will be.

[forrester]

Unions are a facility by facility slug fest.

The only real choice is for a national group with enough membership (votes) and money to influence state and national policy.

We need staffing ratios set because every patient deserves safe care, and the facilities won't do it on their own.
We need legislated ratios because legal consequences are the only thing facilities listen to.
Lastly, we need a national force because our own "leaders" won't, or can't, stick up for us.

Bedside nurses, particularly med-surg and tele nurses, but also LTC staff and other vulnerable nursing groups, have no one representing them.

We need to be nurses protecting ourselves.

[jeolsz]

Sorry if I never felt the need to stand on a picket line, when I can go to 50 more places to get a new job at the drop of a hat...What other profession allows you to get a job by simply walking into a facility and doing a background check and filing a shift need. Nurses can't even collect unemployment in my state, because there are more jobs than qualified nurses. Wake up!.. Nurses are in demand right now.. Think about it.. What other profession can you work in and make the money you are making, on a 2 year education? The answer is not many!

Again, I say stop whining and get back to work...and if this job doesn't suit you, there are plenty of others that might.