[bigreddog1934]

why is it that seiu will not mobilize membership against corporate health care and hospital associations with this degree of aggression?

i understand it is because seiu sees union organizing today like a human resources department for the hospitals. before i was a nurse i was a carpenter in in one of the "change to win" unions. the hallmark of these unions is that the employers are more important that the people in the workplace, that it is our job to keep profits rolling in, and these profits have to come at the cost of union democracy and membership strength.

it is a shame that seiu's return to aggressive tactics can not be pointed at the for-profit health care industry, to win better conditions and wages. instead it is used against a meeting of union workers. on behalf of seiu members lets in the mean time be clear that this tactic came from the top down. its not the membership we have an issue with. it the appointed leadership.

[SEIU PSYCH RN]

Originally Posted by bigreddog1934

why is it that seiu will not mobilize membership against corporate health care and hospital associations with this degree of aggression?

i understand it is because seiu sees union organizing today like a human resources department for the hospitals. before i was a nurse i was a carpenter in in one of the "change to win" unions. the hallmark of these unions is that the employers are more important that the people in the workplace, that it is our job to keep profits rolling in, and these profits have to come at the cost of union democracy and membership strength.

it is a shame that seiu's return to aggressive tactics can not be pointed at the for-profit health care industry, to win better conditions and wages. instead it is used against a meeting of union workers. on behalf of seiu members lets in the mean time be clear that this tactic came from the top down. its not the membership we have an issue with. it the appointed leadership.

My employeer certainly doesn't see SEIu as there HR dept. We battle on a almost daily basis. And i as a member organizer have been to Chicago San Antonio and Colorado. Not the first time i have encountered CNA underhanded tatics. And I agree i have nothing against my fellow nurses in the CNA just there leadership

[RN Power Ohio]

This is my final post on this topic. I would like to tell all RN's that SEIU's behavior has been condemned by the labor movement and this is not the way that unions behave. Labor organizations will not tolerate violence. Those days are best left in the past.

This is a comprehensive diary of accounts regarding this incident posted by a CNA member that includes reports from many non- CNA members or affiliates.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/15/175916/721

[herring_RN]

Conflict Between 2 Unions Intensifies

The A.F.L.-C.I.O. president, John J. Sweeney, denounced on Tuesday what he said was “a violent attack orchestrated” by the Service Employees International Union against members of other unions at a conference on Saturday in Michigan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us...rssnyt&emc=rss

[wrindy]

Hello:

Please read and forward this story on the Labor Notes conference and the feud between the California Nurses Association and the SEIU.

Labor Lobby Melee
By Bennet Baumer
http://www.indypendent.org/2008/04/2...r-lobby-melee/

-The Indy

[sirI]

Post #15 merged with existing thread.

[♪♫ in my ♥]

Originally Posted by SEIU PSYCH RN

If you think you can continue to organize on our back and bleed off the nurses you are wrong...You will not be allowed to continue to disrupt our elections and raid our union with out consequence...

Yikes. You scare me.