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Old Aug 15, 2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: Question about striking nurses?

Originally Posted by fergus51 View Post
Because like you yourself said in the paragraph above, they can't afford to close their doors because of their reputation.

I have never seen any proof that striking nurses are in fact more expensive than a hospital closing their doors. I seriously doubt a hospital would close rather than reach a reasonable agreement with their nurses. Strikebreakers do what they do, and that's their decision. I'm not naive enough to believe they are doing it for the patients or that their actions help the nurses on strike. That's one of those don't pee on me and tell me it's raining kind of things.
Fortunately, you'll never have to find out how fast hospitals would close if they could during as strike, because replacement workers will always be there.

I just can't see how unions can really be all that upset about hospitals having to bleed cash to stay open.

If I want 100 dollars from you and it will take me 25 dollars a day to keep from having to pay you the extra hundred, how many days could I hold out before it's just not worth it to resist any longer? 4 you say? NO. Because 4 days from now, the cost of finally giving you that hundred will now cost me 200 hundred. By day 2, the realities of the costs of holding out would begin to set in.

Now, multiply that by millions.

I like your quote, even if it isn't accurate. A more apt one: don't bite the hand that feeds you (or in this case, helps get you what you want).

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 07:31 AM
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Re: Question about striking nurses?

Originally Posted by susieq42 View Post
11% raise? Thats huge! I always got 3% and at my current newer job I got 5% which is unheard of. I think they are greedy. As for floating...I do not agree with floating from floors to ER or units otherwise floating is acceptable if you have had orientation to that floor.
Don't you think it's important to know how much they are making now before pronouncing them to be greedy? Perhaps they are being paid way below the going rate in their area, or maybe they've already gone a few years without a raise. It is important to have all the facts before deciding that a request for an increase of this size is out of line.

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 09:59 AM
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Re: Question about striking nurses?

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2 companies called me about $40 an hour assignments for a potential strike in Northern California not long ago. I don't do strikes anyways, but was surprised at the low wage. $40 an hour is the same as what a different company was offering for regular travel contracts at my current hospital in my specialty. A regular per diem job up there would pay almost twice that. People talk about all the money they make doing strikes, but no one wants to be specific. What hourly wage makes it worthwhile?
My contractor gets me anywhere from 80 to 90 dollars an hour, plus all the perks. I wasnt joking when got me green fees also at course.

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 10:08 AM
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Re: Question about striking nurses?

Originally Posted by fergus51 View Post
2 companies called me about $40 an hour assignments for a potential strike in Northern California not long ago. I don't do strikes anyways, but was surprised at the low wage. $40 an hour is the same as what a different company was offering for regular travel contracts at my current hospital in my specialty. A regular per diem job up there would pay almost twice that. People talk about all the money they make doing strikes, but no one wants to be specific. What hourly wage makes it worthwhile?
The quotes that I have heard for Med/Surg in 2002, was about $80/hr, guaranteed 48-60 hours per week, plus the usual transportation, housing, meals provided, etc.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by reesern63 View Post
Your level of education is irrelevant. I am also a diploma grad, and I happen to strongly disagree with your view of crossing a line. When you do that, you undercut what those nurses are striking for and you give your support to the management who have not been willing to negotiate in good faith with the nurses.

Prettify what a "scab" is all you wish, crossing picket lines hurts the nurses who are out there fighting for better conditions for patients and nurses.
Actually, I'm not "prettifying anything. It's very simple. I would cross the picket line with absolutely no feeling that I was undercutting what the nurses were striking for. I wouldn't look at it like that at all. I'd be crossing the line to take care of my patients and not have them get caught in the middle of something that should be accomplished by other methods. I would also cross the line in order to continue my regular paycheck that I happen to need. I can't afford to miss pay because I'm out on strike. I am not interested in undercutting myself and my family. Those nurses on the sidewalk have the right to do whatever they choose. I just don't choose to follow them onto a strike line. I'm sure the union organizers will get their regular paycheck. The nurses on the strike line will not.

It just happens that I see it differently but that doesn't mean that I have no respect for others who don't share my views. We just have two different viewpoints. I don't think going on strike solves much.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by teeituptom View Post
My contractor gets me anywhere from 80 to 90 dollars an hour, plus all the perks. I wasnt joking when got me green fees also at course.
Interesting. I wonder if this has changed since more nurses do it or what. It was On Assignment and Fastaff that were stalking me about the strike (3 calls a day from one of them before I lost it and had them change my number). I don't think it ever even happened anyways. I worked with 2 girls who do strike nursing and they were making in the 50s. Again, it hardly seemed worth it to me when you consider the uncertainty of the work and the strike baggage.

I realize some people claim it helps the striking nurses, but I don't buy that for a second and it isn't worth it to me. I can make good enough money as a nurse without doing it.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fergus51 View Post
Interesting. I wonder if this has changed since more nurses do it or what. It was On Assignment and Fastaff that were stalking me about the strike (3 calls a day from one of them before I lost it and had them change my number). I don't think it ever even happened anyways. I worked with 2 girls who do strike nursing and they were making in the 50s. Again, it hardly seemed worth it to me when you consider the uncertainty of the work and the strike baggage.

I realize some people claim it helps the striking nurses, but I don't buy that for a second and it isn't worth it to me. I can make good enough money as a nurse without doing it.
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Old Aug 28, 2007, 07:56 PM
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RNs at 7 Sutter Health hospitals OK union to strike

Union-represented registered nurses at seven Sutter Health affiliate hospitals in the Bay Area have authorized their contract negotiating teams to call strikes if agreements are not reached….

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...d=rss.business

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 08:01 PM
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Fremont-Rideout to Lock out RNs, One-day strike is set for August 31 -

RNs Condemn Role of Controversial Denver Based U.S. Nursing Corp. -

CNA files unfair labor practice charges against hospital

Registered nurses at Fremont-Rideout Health Group today sharply criticized the decision of hospital officials to use professional strikebreakers and threats to lock out the RNs for several days following a one-day strike Friday – at a cost of far more than it would take to settle the current contract dispute….

… The administration continues to reject critical patient safety proposals made by the nurses, including safe staffing ratios, so that there are enough nurses to care for the patients, and safe “floating,” so that RNs are not required to work outside their areas of expertise and every patient has a qualified nurse. Both of these provisions are standard in most Northern California CNA contracts….

http://www.calnurses.org/media-cente...808767&print=t

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