[NorthernNurse1]

Originally Posted by ingelein

YES, seems strange.

The fact that the topic brought a lot of new posters to the site shows how strongly nurses are compelled to speak out against the unconsciable tactics of CNA.

[NorthernNurse1]

Originally Posted by RN Power Ohio

You are getting there... one thing missing that makes this different than a neutrality agreement- not one signed card.

Hence, the election.

[RN Power Ohio]

Originally Posted by NorthernNurse1

Hence, the election.

To vote for what?? A hsopital chosen union or no union. That is not a very fair election. Hence, the involvement of NYSNA, NNOC Ohio, CNA, and ONA.

[Ludlow]

Originally Posted by NorthernNurse1

The fact that the topic brought a lot of new posters to the site shows how strongly nurses are compelled to speak out against the unconsciable tactics of CNA.

Or just as likely, how strongly RNs are compelled to expose deals and schemes that in the end sell out workers and patients.

[AltecRN]

Originally Posted by Ludlow

Nor are you, I note. And I believe that fact was made transparent in her letter. She is, though, an insider that has informative insights and knowledge.

No and I never claimed to be. The origional post by RN Power Ohio seems ti infer that the author was part of the RN's employed by the hsopitals in question.

I'm simply saying that posting the letter/article without proper background information is misleading. In order to have proper perspective it would be nice to include that information.

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by NorthernNurse1

The fact that the topic brought a lot of new posters to the site shows how strongly nurses are compelled to speak out against the unconsciable tactics of CNA.

It is good when nurses are compelled to speak for the RIGHT, but lets not be nurses who allow the wool to be pulled over our eyes in backroom deals with unions that have a history of being in the employers pocket.

[Ludlow]

Originally Posted by AltecRN

No and I never claimed to be. The origional post by RN Power Ohio seems ti infer that the author was part of the RN's employed by the hsopitals in question.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't get that impression on reading the letter.

[RN Power Ohio]

"An article written by a nurse and long time activist. "

From my post. I do not see how this infers that the nurse was working at a CHP hosptial.

[stephrnmedsurg123456]

I think we should check the facts before accepting the claim that SEIU is a weak company union. One of the local papers in Ohio ran an editorial yesterday about CNA's busting up of these elections, and they dismiss this claim outright saying SEIU's behavior in Springfield shows it to be "distinctly unpoodle-like." Check it out on this site:
http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/o/...itunion_R.html

I keep looking online for evidence that CNA would be a stronger union for these nurses in Ohio, and I must confess SEIU looks infinitely better for Ohio nurses than CNA. As far as I can tell, CNA doesn't represent ANY union RNs in Ohio or nurses who work for this company. With no members under contract, how can they have the political power to deliver on their promises of ratios? With no members in these markets or in this company, how can they negotiate superior contracts?

Also, this whole argument that CNA is stronger relies on the premise that these nurses were making a choice between CNA. There choice was SEIU or no union, despite what I understand CNA to have said that "no=CNA." They have no union at all right now, so CNA's supposed strength has left these nurses in a much weaker position than if they would have voted yes to be SEIU.

[ingelein]

SEIU has not done a thing for health care workers in WI, they got a really bad reputation in this state. Maybe they need to prove that they are there for the worker,then they can regain some of their status as a union for the worker.

http://theunionnews.blogspot.com/200...-epidemic.html

3/9/08

SEIU shocked by decert epidemic

Leaders of a movement that has tentatively ousted the Service Employees International Union from a nursing home downtown say the union was unresponsive and unavailable too often. "[SEIU] didn't do anything for us except collect union dues," said Mary Foor, cook supervisor at the Altoona (PA) Center for Nursing Care.

Foor and others presented owner Grane Healthcare with a petition signed by 70 of the 120 bargaining-unit workers, renouncing SEIU representation at the expiration of its contract, they said. The company immediately withdrew its recognition of the union, which has appealed to the National Labor Relations Board in hopes an investigation will show the petition doesn’t represent a majority.

It was hard for workers to get an answer on almost any question they asked the union, including what it was doing with money from fundraisers, cook supervisor Debbie Hartman, housekeeper Woody Patterson and Foor said.

"No one ever gets back to anybody," Patterson said.