[samanthaRN]

I don't trust your answers. I can't understand how you would know so much about both Nevada and Ohio if you're really an impartial observer... If you're not, you should make it clear that you are a cna partisan and are presenting events as the cna has presented them to you.

Your answer to number 1 seems like splitting hairs. Why do cards make something more democratic? I've read posts by a CA nurse Sherwood on allnurses.com describing CNA organizers plying nurses with trinkets and pizza. The way I understand the Ohio agreement, no such bribes were allowed. I think bribes are a bigger deal than cards in terms of democracy. (Have a piece of pizza, sign a card honey! It's just a card to show you want us to bring more pizza into your hospital...) No one was trying to persuade nurses either way in Ohio until the CNA showed up.

Your answer to number 2 is clearly misleading, as you asked CHP nurses to vote no, anti-union rhetoric if I ever saw any. This is on the pdf that is posted on your website. If seiu asked nurses to vote no, that's sad, but it is not an excuse for you to hurt nurses in Ohio.

Nurses should care which union represents nurses and hospital employees in their state; without uniting lots of nurses in their own state how can they make their voice heard in politics?

As for #4, if a few nurses working with the CNA for a while makes seiu's interference in Nevada troubling, then 3 years of work with SEIU at chp makes CNA's interference even more troubling.

[SEIU PSYCH RN]

Originally Posted by samanthaRN

I don't trust your answers. I can't understand how you would know so much about both Nevada and Ohio if you're really an impartial observer... If you're not, you should make it clear that you are a cna partisan and are presenting events as the cna has presented them to you.

Your answer to number 1 seems like splitting hairs. Why do cards make something more democratic? I've read posts by a CA nurse Sherwood on allnurses.com describing CNA organizers plying nurses with trinkets and pizza. The way I understand the Ohio agreement, no such bribes were allowed. I think bribes are a bigger deal than cards in terms of democracy. (Have a piece of pizza, sign a card honey! It's just a card to show you want us to bring more pizza into your hospital...) No one was trying to persuade nurses either way in Ohio until the CNA showed up.

Your answer to number 2 is clearly misleading, as you asked CHP nurses to vote no, anti-union rhetoric if I ever saw any. This is on the pdf that is posted on your website. If seiu asked nurses to vote no, that's sad, but it is not an excuse for you to hurt nurses in Ohio.

Nurses should care which union represents nurses and hospital employees in their state; without uniting lots of nurses in their own state how can they make their voice heard in politics?

As for #4, if a few nurses working with the CNA for a while makes seiu's interference in Nevada troubling, then 3 years of work with SEIU at chp makes CNA's interference even more troubling.

Ramantha Rn
Point one is much more than splitting hairs it is the proper and honorable way for unions to organize membership. I's CNA even staying in Ohio to organize these Rn's I dont think so. This campaign has been going on four three years and a last minute kamakize attack by the Cna ruined all this work. This was not a back room deal between CHP and Seiu but rather an agreement underwhich most CHP emplotees could vote in a free and fair election without the intimdation harassement and intimidation workers usally face in these campaigns.

[RN Power Ohio]

NNOC is and has been organizing nurses in Ohio since 2004. We are preparing to introduce ratio legislation. There are metro committees throughout the state. See my other post about some highlights of NNOC Ohio over the past few years. This list is not all inclusive.

www.calnurses.org/nnoc/ohio

[Organize1199]

The California Nurses Association, an RN craft union, came to Ohio and ran a straight-up VOTE NO campaign. When workers said they were not RNs, CNA organizers said, "we're also asking you to VOTE NO."

I was present to hear and witness what the CNA did to workers in Ohio. In their literature, they demeaned and insulted non-RN staff, and the idea that RNs should unite together with other hospital staff. I have been working with CHP employees for three years. They are the most courageous people I know, and deserve better than to have their hopes attacked by a so-called union.

RNs in our union have always stood together with other hospital employees. just ask the nurses at CHP's hospital in Lorain, Ohio who organized with SEIU several years ago, and who have been overwhelmingly supportive of the long organizing drive across the CHP system.

The California Nurses Association betrayed and insulted Ohio workers and trade union values. Their shame is a disgrace to the movement, and their despicable behavior is an impediment to building workers' organizations, to change this country.

I would put out a plea, that members of the California Nurses Association demand their leadership stop using your dues money to attack workers here in Ohio. Hospital workers in the US are less than 14% organized, so there are plenty of places your money could be used in a positive way, to help local organizing drives instead of bullying non-RNs, and RNs trying to organize with other unions.

IN SOLIDARITY

[Organize1199]

RN Power Ohio, just to be clear, the CNA does not represent a single worker in the state of Ohio.

Anyway, aren't you that "nurse" who came down from the Cleveland law firm you work at to help the CNA bust the union - masquerading as a hospital RN. Get real!

Your statements are totally off base. Do you really believe anything you say? Shame on you!

A secret ballot election is a democratic ideal. You CNA people are so upset just because you weren't on the ballot. Well, you didn't campaign. Are you planning to disrupt the presidential election because you suddenly noticed your name isn't on the ticket???

I am so disgusted by what you have done, what you have taken away from thousands of workers who have fought so long.

You are a disgrace to the movement.