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Jan 05, 2005, 07:04 PM
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What to do about tech refusing to get VS?
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I have a tech at work who I'll call Sarah. She is a really good tech. The problem is that she has an attitude with me. I have reported her at least twice and nothing ever gets done. It goes like this:
I always get my own admission VS, post-op, post cath, and blood VS. I very rarely ask a tech to do anything for me. They know what they are supposed to do and they do it. Yesterday I had a new patient that the physician had sent up from his office, he wasn't even allowed to stop at admitting, dx: viral meningitis. He was 80 years old and I was told that his temp was 103 and that I was to immediately start an IV, order labs, give IV Phenergan, get VS, etc, etc..... At the same time I had another admit come up from the ER. I asked Sarah to get the vital signs on the first patient while I was starting the IV. She brought the dinemapp in the room and said "since you're in here you can get them" I said no Sarah get the VS, she said " do you want me to show you how to operate the equipment, is that the problem?" and she promptly left the room. I was not only furious but embarassed in front of the patients family. I told my assistant nurse manager and she didn't say much.
This is the 3rd such similar incident with this CNT in about 3 months time. I have spoken to her directly also with no results. Any suggestions? What I'm thinking about is asking for a confrontation in the nurse managers office.
I would like to tell her that I think she does a good job but do not appreciate her reluctance to do something that I ask her to do because I only ask when it's really needed. I would like to tell her that she needs a refresher on what her job description entails. Should I mention that I am her superior, well that's not the word I want to use but you know, I'm over her, in charge......?
I want to tell her that if she wants to give the orders that she should go to school and get her nursing license. Thanks for any advice you can offer. We both work tomorrow and I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks.
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Jan 05, 2005, 08:05 PM
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#1,, make sure you put any complaints to the nurse manager in writing, and keep a copy for yourself, date and time all material.
#2,, after written complaints dont work, DO ask for a meeting between you the tech and the nurse manager.
#3,, if it continues, ask for another meeting with you the tech and the NM with the clinical director present.
There is a reason this tech thinks they dont have to do what they are asked outside of the job description that is on paper for the facility, find out why and make sure the NM points out that you are ultimately in charge of what duties she does if she is on your team or working with you as charge.
She needs to be shown the door,, a GOOD tech does what is asked of them,, a mediocre tech does only what is in writing and then usually takes advantage to scrimp on those duties.
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Jan 05, 2005, 08:15 PM
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dutchgirl...i feel your frustrations ...seems like me and you have had the same cna..and i bet there are a few nurses who she would never say that remark to..don't wait any longer, just write her up. Put it in writing word for word and make sure that you mention the patient and family hearing this. This is bull !! You can forget the part about being above her in giving orders ect...this kind of person has already shown to you your license means squat..But you know what they say...what goes around comes around. The aide that used to mouth off to me, she had finished nursing school soon after, and the hospital was all excited about adding a registered nurse to the staff and guess what??? The rotten trouble maker failed her test
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Jan 05, 2005, 08:32 PM
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Take her out to the parking lot and beat the snot out of her.
Just kidding. *evil grin
Definatly ask for a confrontation in front of the nurse manager. You have to work together so the request isn't absurd. And this way if you suddenly get the urge to "take her out"......someone is there to stop you!
Could someone tell me what the role of a tech is? Not clear and could be a different term up here.
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Jan 05, 2005, 08:44 PM
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I think she means certified nursing tech?? (CNT)..I took it as a aide...why can't they come up for one name already...lol...I like your parking lot idea, maybe take her down to where the lights are burned out..lol..
Originally Posted by z's playa
Take her out to the parking lot and beat the snot out of her.
Just kidding. *evil grin
Definatly ask for a confrontation in front of the nurse manager. You have to work together so the request isn't absurd. And this way if you suddenly get the urge to "take her out"......someone is there to stop you!
Could someone tell me what the role of a tech is? Not clear and could be a different term up here.
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Jan 06, 2005, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by z's playa
Take her out to the parking lot and beat the snot out of her.
Thanks everyone I am on my way to work. I have written her up twice for the same thing. Nothing seems to get done about it and that is why I am asking for the face to face. I don't mind doing it in the med room or wherever I just think so there's no doubt about what's said it would be better to ask for it in front of the nurse manager. I'll let you know tonight what happens.
P.S. I like the parking lot idea  Problem is she's "bigger" than me and would probably win ! Her husband is a nursing student so he thinks he knows everything. He tried to tell me that Tordol was a beta-blocker. Argued and argued, he called it Tordol XL. I said you're talking about Toprol-XL and no it's not a beta-blocker its an ace inhibitor but it is for BP. He kept on, really man I don't have time for this. Talk to me again about a year after you graduate and pass NCLEX. Maybe he'll do us all a favor and fail, he,he!
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Jan 06, 2005, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DutchgirlRN
He tried to tell me that Tordol was a beta-blocker. Argued and argued, he called it Tordol XL. I said you're talking about Toprol-XL and no it's not a beta-blocker its an ace inhibitor but it is for BP. He kept on, really man I don't have time for this. Talk to me again about a year after you graduate and pass NCLEX. Maybe he'll do us all a favor and fail, he,he! 
Toprol XL is a beta blocker....Is a extended release one.....Its the same as metaprolol or lopressor.........So he is right and you are wrong in this situation.......Remember, all beta blockers end in olol, and ace inhibitors end in pril...........
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Jan 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
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I think the OP meant "Toradol"...a pain reliever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Scary how some of these drugs sound so familiar or the spelling is so familiar at times, isn't it?
Originally Posted by bobnurse
Toprol XL is a beta blocker....Is a extended release one.....Its the same as metaprolol or lopressor.........So he is right and you are wrong in this situation.......Remember, all beta blockers end in olol, and ace inhibitors end in pril...........
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Jan 06, 2005, 12:44 PM
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I think the OP meant "Toradol"...a pain reliever. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dutchgirl
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Jan 06, 2005, 12:46 PM
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Oops, sorry for the double post. First time I've ever tried to edit a post of mine, lol
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