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Old Sep 06, 2002, 07:43 PM
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Has anyone experienced problems with IV Phenergan 25 mg. We are currently having trouble administering it to any one. It seems like everyone has respiratory depression with this drug. We have had a few people stop breathing. I know that this is a potential side effect, but it seems like it is happening a awful lot. Also does anyone know how safe it is for children above the age of 2.

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Old Sep 06, 2002, 07:50 PM
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We use IV phenergan on our invasive cardiology unit...but the orders are very specific...phenergan 12.5 mg iv may repeat one time. The cardiac orders are for 6.25 mg may repeat x one. 25 mg is alot of phenergan....it has long lasting effects, especially in the elderly

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Old Sep 06, 2002, 07:54 PM
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We usually start off w/ 12.5 Phenergan diluted w/ 20 cc NS......just to see. We have kind of back off and started using Zofran alot more. I've never see anyone in respiratory distress but, the shakes, restless legs and general uneasy feelings I see alot. That happened to me last time I was in the hospital and I NEVER want Phenergan again!

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 01:01 AM
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Usually give 12.5mg slow IV push, no resp depression problems, I like it better than the Inapsine we were using last year.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 01:35 PM
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I HATE phenergan....

Even with a 12.5 mg dose... administered WELL beyond a minute... and diluted... I had a woman become virtually non-responsive with respirations at a maximum of 8. Because she had also been receiving morphine (not with the phenergan, but throughout the day)... the doctor requested that narcan be administered to stop those effect. Her respirations didn't increase, but she did eventually arouse enough to be in complete misery with pain.

I've known of other instances where phenergan has created similar effects in other patient's as well... with other nurses.

I won't give it IV.... IM only. The effects take a bit longer to achieve, but you don't see the respiratory depression as when you administer it IV.

I find that Zofran, administered pre or intra-op as per manufacturers guidelines... is much more effective.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by psychomachia
Usually give 12.5mg slow IV push, no resp depression problems, I like it better than the Inapsine we were using last year.
We don't even stock Inapsine anymore! There were so many cases of patients totally losing it after they had Inapsine. I had never seen it until on of the nurses came in sick as a dog. We put her in a room for overnight OBS and gave her Inapsine. This usually calm, funny, outgoing nurse, became NURSEZILLA! Ripped her IV out, insisted she was going home, verbally abusive, etc.......Finally to calm her down, on of the staff drove her to her moms for the rest of the night. She doesn't remember any of it.
That reaction seemed to happen frequently so, we just don't even bother with it.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 03:46 PM
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We seem to be using Zofran more, I miss Droperidol !! I know about the possibility for torsades but I have never seen it and I loved the effect of droperidol on my patients. Oh well, Zofran it is.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 04:17 PM
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Last year I had a patient almost stop breathing after getting Phenergan. I am so glad it wasn't just me who had that happen to. Frankly, I didn't think the narcan did much for her. Scared me to death.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 04:48 PM
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Hey NurseDianne. I had the same thing happen to me with a patient. She totally flipped out after receiving Phenergan that the only other solution that we could think that would be the matter with her is that she was going through DT's. That turned out not to be the case! Phenergan is a BAD drug. Thanks to everyone for their input.

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Old Sep 07, 2002, 05:38 PM
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I've seen the rare psychosis side effect (usually in a geriatric pt who is a nice normal person that goes ballistic on it and gets shipped to our floor), but oddly haven't run into the resp depression. Could be the difference in the patient populations we serve. We give Phenergan pretty regularly as people are detoxing and heaving.

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