[Sunshiyn]

Originally Posted by sirI

My state recognizes the RN who practices as legal nurse consultant and who is certified by AALNC. The RN in my state can utilize the letters, LNCC.

Now, all state BON recognize the RN who practices in the specialty role as an LNC whether they are certified or not.

But, there are some state BON (such as mine) who only recoginize the AALNC certification and that certification would be the LNCC. I forsee this being accepted by all BON soon.......IMHO.

Siri:

Is this because one must have over 2000 hours of experience as a LNC before even taking the exam?

[foraneman]

When using the term "recognize", what is it's definition? Currently (and likely not to change) state BONs do not regulate, certify, recommend training for, etc., the legal nurse consultant. Since the function of an LNC is under the control of a licensed attorney, the closest regulation is from the state bar though indirect. Because of this many BON's limit or do not recognize at all an CE's for LNC's which are non-clinical and legal related...which only makes sense.
No BON can then regulate what initials (CLNC, LLNC, LNCC, LNC) a LNC uses after their name. These are TRADEMARKED by the individual private educational programs and the BON has no say.

[sirI]

Originally Posted by foraneman

When using the term "recognize", what is it's definition? Currently (and likely not to change) state BONs do not regulate, certify, recommend training for, etc., the legal nurse consultant. Since the function of an LNC is under the control of a licensed attorney, the closest regulation is from the state bar though indirect. Because of this many BON's limit or do not recognize at all an CE's for LNC's which are non-clinical and legal related...which only makes sense.

In mid '06, the ANA finally came out and made this statement that RNs were indeed practicing within their BON SOP as LNC:

The American Nurses Association (ANA) newly adopted Legal Nurse Consulting: Scope and Standards of Practice affirms that legal nurse consultants are indeed practicing nurses, and that legal nurse consulting is recognized as a nursing specialty. http://allnurses.com/forums/f29/ana-...ce-152828.html

This has nothing to do with the American Bar Association (ABA) as the practice of legal nurse consulting falls under RN SOP. Therefore, LNC is not regulated in any shape, form or fashion, by attorneys. Most BON have this defined via NPA.

No BON can then regulate what initials (CLNC, LLNC, LNCC, LNC) a LNC uses after their name. These are TRADEMARKED by the individual private educational programs and the BON has no say

Correct. As of now, state BON cannot regulate which certification designation is utilized by the individual RN as LNC, but many do regulate which designation is approved and which certification is accepted for CEUs. Per my state BON:

X-SBN Approved Certifications
The certifications listed below meet the continuing education criteria for license renewal:

Specialty: Legal Nurse Consulting

Certifying Body: American Association Legal Nurse Consultant

www.aalnc.org

Desigination: LNCC

And, LNC is not trademarked by any organization. It is a specialty area designation only.

[foraneman]

Originally Posted by sirI

In mid '06, the ANA finally came out and made this statement that RNs were indeed practicing within their BON SOP as LNC:

While one appreciates the ANA and their contribution, their statement is empty and in effect meaningless. The ANA does not affect state nurse practice acts with such statements. As long as there is NO requirement by law for an individual to be a currently licensed registered nurse in order to function in the role of a legal nurse consultant, the board has no jurisdiction (aside from preventing using the title "nurse" if not licensed). To apply a BON SOP to an LNC is very difficult. What does that mean? If strictly applied it would require that an RN LNC render opinions and consider materials pertaining to the practice of nursing alone. Evaluation of the medical care beyond nursing would be prohibited.

Originally Posted by sirI

This has nothing to do with the American Bar Association (ABA) as the practice of legal nurse consulting falls under RN SOP. Therefore, LNC is not regulated in any shape, form or fashion, by attorneys. Most BON have this defined via NPA.

As I said, ther is only indirect regulation. The closest thing to regulation of LNC practice occurs under state laws, through the bar association oversite many times, by strict limits on practicing law without a license. An LNC cannot dispense legal opinions to parties in litigation, and is on dangerous ground without working in conjunction with a licensed attorney. Not from the board of nursing. They have no authority. I am unaware of any BON that addresses the SOP of an LNC in their NPA. They are unable to without impeding on the rules of the legal profession. What SOP portions govern the LNC?

Originally Posted by sirI

Correct. As of now, state BON cannot regulate which certification designation is utilized by the individual RN as LNC, but many do regulate which designation is approved and which certification is accepted for CEUs.

That was my original question. To be clear, "recognition" as used here only means recognizing a particular training program, in this case that offered by the American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants, for CEU credit.

And, LNC is not trademarked by any organization. It is a specialty area designation only.

Correct.:Santa5:

[cebugirl]

does illinois recognize VIM 5 DAY COURSE in the CEUS RENEWAL? WHAT WEBSITE OR NUMBER CAN I GET INFO ON THIS? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

[sirI]

Originally Posted by cebugirl

does illinois recognize VIM 5 DAY COURSE in the CEUS RENEWAL? WHAT WEBSITE OR NUMBER CAN I GET INFO ON THIS? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

Here is the telephone # to the IL BON:

888-NURSE07 [888-687-7307]

And, weblink to BON:

http://nursing.illinois.gov/default.htm

Right now, there is nothing outlined with IL BON regarding which program(s) is/are acceptable.