[CametoitlateTexan]

Originally Posted by spacenurse

Our veterans deserve excellent healthcare.
We the people should insist on it.

I agree 1000%

[CametoitlateTexan]

The real question is; Is the VA the best place in which to receive excellent healthcare?

Can anyone think of another government entity in which you can truthfully say they provide excellent anything? (Perhaps the military comes the closest to delivering as promised, but what else?)

[HM2Viking]

Originally Posted by spacenurse

Our veterans deserve excellent healthcare.
We the people should insist on it.

AMEN TO THAT!

[VivaLasViejas]

Originally Posted by CametoitlateTexan

" But, we have a war monger in the Whitehouse who has done very littel for this counrty, except increase out poverty rate."

This is the kind of statement that exposes "left-wing non-thinking automatons" for what they are. It is never helpful to try and have a discussion by throwing out incendiary hatespeak.

Excuse me.........but isn't a term such as "left-wing non-thinking automatons" incendiary hatespeak as well?

Folks: this sort of thing adds NOTHING to the debate. Please stay on topic and avoid the name-calling.

[CametoitlateTexan]

Originally Posted by mjlrn97

Excuse me.........but isn't a term such as "left-wing non-thinking automatons" incendiary hatespeak as well?

Folks: this sort of thing adds NOTHING to the debate. Please stay on topic and avoid the name-calling.

Your'e right, I apologize if I offended.

Again, please forgive me for pointing out that someone who makes an incendiary comment that is based in nothing but their emotions is the originator of name calling in this discussion. I merely have exposed their, and your tactics which is to call anyone who disagrees with you a "name-caller."

This tactic is practiced by some people to make them appear somehow more caring and therefore superior. It is, in fact, more intellectually courageous to discuss the issue without interjecting false claims and accusations.

[HM2Viking]

Originally Posted by CametoitlateTexan

The real question is; Is the VA the best place in which to receive excellent healthcare?

Can anyone think of another government entity in which you can truthfully say they provide excellent anything? (Perhaps the military comes the closest to delivering as promised, but what else?)

Some examples:
Social Security
Traditional Medicare
The Public Library

The VA system actually has developed/earned a reputation for high quality care.

[VivaLasViejas]

Originally Posted by CametoitlateTexan

Your'e right, I apologize if I offended.

Again, please forgive me for pointing out that someone who makes an incendiary comment that is based in nothing but their emotions is the originator of name calling in this discussion. I merely have exposed their, and your tactics which is to call anyone who disagrees with you a "name-caller."

This tactic is practiced by some people to make them appear somehow more caring and therefore superior. It is, in fact, more intellectually courageous to discuss the issue without interjecting false claims and accusations.

Agreed.

But as for the first paragraph: Tossing out an inflammatory term, as you did in your other post, IS 'name-calling'. That isn't my opinion, it's just a fact. I don't have a dog in this particular fight, and I don't care which end of the political spectrum any member happens to occupy.

I do, however, ask that you imagine how you would feel if your words were to be turned against you. Do you think you would enjoy being referred to, even casually, as a "right-wing, non-thinking bigot"? There are a number of people, both here on the boards and out in the general public, who believe exactly that. Do you deserve to be insulted by them? Of course not, and the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed on as a member protect EVERYONE, regardless of ethnicity, gender, religion, occupation, or political affiliation.

Now---if we can agree to leave the emotions and the intellectual insults out of the debate, let us resume the topic.

[SmilingBluEyes]

Spacenurse, as always, you said it well. I agree with you 100% as a veteran and military (retired) wife.

[CametoitlateTexan]

Originally Posted by mjlrn97

Agreed.
I do, however, ask that you imagine how you would feel if your words were to be turned against you. Do you think you would enjoy being referred to, even casually, as a "right-wing, non-thinking bigot"? There are a number of people, both here on the boards and out in the general public, who believe exactly that. Do you deserve to be insulted by them? Of course not, and the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed on as a member protect EVERYONE, regardless of ethnicity, gender, religion, occupation, or political affiliation.

Now---if we can agree to leave the emotions and the intellectual insults out of the debate, let us resume the topic.

Agreed. I suppose I reacted a little too strongly. Thanks for your counsel.

[ZASHAGALKA]

Whose really looking out for Vets? The government, of course.

Universal Healthcare, as a subset of our population, in action.

~faith,
Timothy.